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No Australian Money For Gaza

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Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 7:37:06 PM
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"For me it is the extreme hatred of Jews that has always been the primary driver of the conflict, like these nurses bragging about how they would treat Israeli patients."

Firstly those nurses aren't in Palestine, so they aren't responsible for conflict in Israel.

When looking at complicated issues where there is conflict, it's helpful to try to separate the causes from the consequences.

Are the Aussie nurses comments a cause or a consequence of conflict?
Obviously they should not be employed by NSW Health.

As for the Palestinians themselves,
Would you hate people who killed your entire family just because they can?
I would, and I may even be driven to reprisal attacks upon the perpetrators because of it.

Is this hatred you speak of Fester a cause or a consequence of conflict?

When the State of Israel started with the Nakba, then is it not reasonable that all hatred may well be a consequence rather than a cause?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 7:52:04 PM
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Heres an interesting document from a guy that worked across the hall from Fauchi.
http://www.scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-and-illegal-us-bioweapons-activity-an-insiders-revelations-2432.pdf
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 8:16:15 PM
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Dear Critic,

«Would you hate people who killed your entire family just because they can?
I would, and I may even be driven to reprisal attacks upon the perpetrators because of it.»

I understand, as many people would do the same, so OK, you are not a saint and neither am I, but is it appropriate to publicly broadcast and brag about your shortcomings and mental imbalance?

And you are not alone there - the Israeli far right shares this exact mentality with you.

Hatred cannot make you happy, hatred can only bring you all kinds of nasty diseases.

«When the State of Israel started with the Nakba, then is it not reasonable that all hatred may well be a consequence rather than a cause?»

The cause of hatred is always the same: the imbalanced mind of the hater. Hatred is never reasonable.
We all experience adversities at some stage or another, because this is the nature of life on earth, but when those of sound and stable mind get lemons, they turn them into lemonade!

Here is a description of an ideal saint, and while we are not there yet, it is something to aspire to:

"Those devotees are very dear to Me who are free from malice toward all living beings, who are friendly, and compassionate. They are free from attachment to possessions and egotism, equipoised in happiness and distress, and ever-forgiving. They are ever-content, steadily united with Me in devotion, self-controlled, of firm resolve, and dedicated to Me in mind and intellect."

[Bhagavad-Gita, 12:13-14]

And here are the words of another saint:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth‘. But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.“

[Matthew 5:38-40]
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 8:57:59 PM
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Hi AC,

"Is this hatred you speak of Fester a cause or a consequence of conflict?"

Both. Hatred of the Jews migrating to Palestine. There were many fleeing the Nazis and many countries did not want them. The Palestinians never gave up that hatred and look where it has taken them.

What upsets me most is the idea that someone should be "bad" for holding a particular opinion or for being of a particular race or heritage. Buying into such nonsense is nothing more than giving the mindset of hatred a foot in the door. Look at the forum for goodness sake: People holding a diversity of opinions, yet all wanting to see civilisation progress and prosper. The curious thing that I observe is that people will single out some opinions as reason to think civilisation at risk, when the truth seems to be that a diversity of opinion is more likely to found civilisation's advance.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 12 February 2025 9:51:41 PM
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The Palestinians never gave up that hatred and look where it has taken them.
- Maybe its simply just the land itself they refuse to give up?

Holding onto that hatred, what are they supposed to do, flush their principle down the toilet, as though all the lives lost and total human cost doesn't even matter.

Israel policy has always been to bring so much misery upon them that they choose to go somewhere else, that's a recipe FOR BUILDING hatred.

"The curious thing that I observe is that people will single out some opinions as reason to think civilisation at risk, when the truth seems to be that a diversity of opinion is more likely to found civilisation's advance."

- Agreed.
Dialogue works, but you can't reason with those who refuse to reason or refuse to seek an acceptable compromise to conflict.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 13 February 2025 8:05:12 AM
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