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I'm not an anti-semite, but...

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I've been thinking about democracy
- specifically how it fits in the world beneath another set of realities.

I'm not trying to be anti-Semitic specifically, just looking at things as they are.

First off the U.S congress is owned by the Israel lobby.
If congressmen (and congresswomen) don't swear allegiance to Israel, the Israel lobby massively donates to their opponents and runs a smear campaign against them, meaning it's almost impossible to be elected.

Next you have wars in Israels benefit, The War on Terror, Arab Spring, these war plan policies are fostered by Pro-Israel Neoconservatives.

And finally you have a Pro-Israeli murdoch media, willing to tell you jihadists are good people if need be; whitewashing any ability for the average Joe to make real sense of the world.

Without getting into the 'whys' of it, lets just accept that's just how it is.

Is it for profits or Israels interests? Well we know people like George Soros hedge fund manager promotes open borders and Blackrock bought up chunks of Ukraine, taking a share of the spoils...

What part do western democracies the left and right, play in the above realities?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 12 December 2024 7:44:21 AM
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What is the lefts part to play?
The left rides on the coat-tails of the immigrant problem these wars have created, as our soverignty unity and values are watered down.
They use the problem to gain more power unto themselves as they are a umbrella party for all minorities (or non nationalists)

Anti-hate-speech and tolerance for immigrants plays to Israelis favour, we can't abide racists in a multicultural society.

The pendulum swings to the left...

And the right rides on the coat-tails of nationalist spirit, and the disgruntlement towards the lefts policies and immigration, but they also take the nationalists feelings as well as evangelicals built in DNA support for Israel and they mesh this nationalist evangelical support with support for Israel.

The pendulum swings back to the right.

Back and forth it goes, we think we the people are winning, but are we?

I see the whole process is like a slow walk, with the right a clearing house of all the bs that ultimately moves us back closer to nationalist interests , but in truth, closer to aligning completely to Israeli interests.

Both the left and the right have been commandeered to serve Israeli interests.
They are both wings of the same bird, but that bird is certainly NOT not a native Australian bird.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 12 December 2024 7:47:07 AM
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As the Prime Minister pointed out:

He didn't think any Australian would support acts of
terrorism not matter who perpetrates them.

I shall repeat what I posted on another discussion:

The Ethics Centre asks the question:

"Israel or Palestine: Do you have to pick a side?"

We're told that:

"Picking a side can shrink our view, making us see the
world through that sides's ethical lens and dismissing
other possible valid perspectives".

There's more at:

http://ethics.org.au/israel-or-palestine-do-you-have-to-pick-a-side/
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 12 December 2024 10:39:59 AM
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Hi Foxy

Look what they did to Albo, when Israel didn't get it's way on a UN vote in the last week?
- 'Shame on you Albo, how dare you?', as if Albo were actually standing beneath an Israeli flag and was openly treacherous.
Think about that attitude, the audacity of it...
And ask yourself is this is what every single politician is subjected to who doesn't join the free trip to Israel club?

You think there is fairness for the Palestinians under this cloud of influence
You think there is fairness to any western nation under the same influence Dutton displays?

Palestinians are done for now, the U.N and the world highest courts couldn't stop Israels genocide for land theft.
Like it or not Hamas and Hezbollah were the only things that stood in the way of Israel doing whatever it wanted.
With Syria turned into a failed state, it's the end of the Palestinians, and the whole region will turn into the wild west, to Israels gleeful benefit.
Don't expect any news on the Palestinians, the media have another issue with Syria to shift the worlds focus in the region.
Israel has slaughtered all these people, decades of foreign policy objectives in progress, and none of the dead matter, and no-one is going to stop it.

Madeleine Albright justifies the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children as "worth it"
http://youtu.be/KP1OAD9jSaI

What do you think all this has been for?
We've been lied into wars - with millions dead and displaced.
- And you think there can a fair playing field?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 12 December 2024 1:43:36 PM
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Hi AC,

Yes I do think there can be a level playing field
with the right leadership. And I think that the current
government is doing things well. Look at the alternative.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 12 December 2024 1:59:15 PM
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- Because Israel can't achieve any of it's long term goals with peace and stability.
It needs enemies and instability in the region to achieve these expansionist goals.
Armchair Critic,
Are you sure you didn't mis-print ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 13 December 2024 7:23:23 AM
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