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I'm not an anti-semite, but...

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Please excuse my typo. Here's the link again:

http://jewishcouncil.com.au/media/jewish-council-launches-expert-voice-antisemitism-racism-in-australia
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 8 December 2024 10:56:43 AM
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We can't do anything about the conflict in the Middle East - Israel or Gaza - but we should be able to respect and protect Jewish Australians in their own country. They are Australians, not Israelis, and have no more connection to the conflict than the rest of us. Attacking Australian Jews is as ridiculous as attacking Australian Catholics over the atrocities committed by the Catholic IRA in Ireland would have been.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 8 December 2024 1:24:32 PM
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Time to Stop Beating Around the Bush
I am aware that antiSemitism predates Islam but it now has been elevated to be a belief that just too many think is the way it has to be.
Mohhomad was a 7th century Arabian brigand that operated in Arabia by raiding caravans passing through Arabia and raiding villages. These villages also included Jewish villages.
However Mohhomad developed a special dislike of the Jewish villages possibly because they were not Christians, or possibly they gave him a hard time.
Never the less at some point Mohhomad as it is written developed or had a vision to establish Islam.
He built into Islam a hatred of Jews and other non believers such as Christians. The rest is history.

In that first century Mohhomad sent Arab armies into Mesopotamia, Egypt, Persia.
Later the Islamic armies invaded North Africa and India and central Asia.
They did all this as presented in the Koran by the use of terrorist actions.
It was so sucessful it became written into the Koran and their other writings.
So it has become standard practise which we see today even here in Australia.

Today we have not seen any mass terrorist attacks but we will see an incident by incident increase in the intensity of attacks. They have moved from just shouting insults to attacking buildings, hassling Jews on the street and vandalising cars to the recent fire attack on on a Synagogue in Melbourne. These attacks will increase step by step just as if they are testing the authorities. Their intention is to incrementally modify our society to become Islamic.
Soem of you will think I am deluded but do not take my word for it just take the word of their teachers and Immans. They have already made significant gains in Europe in their objective.
Want one example; The British Courts are known historically as leaders in the rights of accused persons the legal practises that have been copied around the world starting with Magna Carta.
to be continued
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 8 December 2024 3:19:32 PM
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Not sure what happened there, it got loaded anyway

It seems absurd but Britain has official Islamic Courts to administer Sharia Law.
At present they seem restricted to Family Law.
It is no more than the thin edge of the wedge.
We must stop Beating Around the Bush and draw
the line and enforce our laws and indeed introduce laws that will
restrict Islam as its practices do not comply with Australian customs.
­I should not need to repeat those practices as they have had multiple
reports over the years.
One that many would find terrible is in
inheritance Sharia law is that daughters
inherit half what sons inherit.
This now applies in the UK and if the administrator
sends the will to a Sharia court for probate then
I doubt the daughters could do anything about it.
That really is the thin edge of the wedge.
Islamic practise for such "crimes" as blasphermy or leaving the
religion is death in Islamic courts in many cases.
This is what Islamists want in Australia, and in Germany they have been
holding demonstrations in the street demanding Sharia Law.
As far as Gaza is concerned everyone feels horror over the deaths of
the innocents, but if you start a war then do not be surprised if the
victim of your agression rises up and hits back.
I suggest doubters go looking for that information instead of just saying;
"That is a load of rubbish."
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 8 December 2024 3:45:11 PM
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A correction on what I said about UK Sharia "Courts".
There are around 30 Sharia “councils” in the UK but these are not courts of law. The Sharia councils' decisions are based on Islamic religious laws and cannot overrule the decisions of UK courts or make decisions that are contrary to UK law.10 Nov 2023

I wonder if the Banks would recognise the rulings of Sharia Councils.
If a court made no comment would the banks recognise the Sharia decision ?
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 8 December 2024 4:05:37 PM
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Its certainly theoretically possible be anti-Israel but not anti-Jew, but in reality it rarely occurs. One of the reasons for that is that the vast majority of Jews world-wide are pro-Israel, so taking a stand against the Jewish state ends up meaning, inevitably, taking a stand against Jews both within and without Israel.

If the actions of Israel and the Jews were treated equally with those of other peoples and states, then the claim against antisemitism might stand scrutiny. But they rarely are. Things Israel does are denounced in ways and with force that just doesn't apply to other peoples and states.

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Currently we are witnessing the destruction of the Syrian regime. A regime that killed a minimum of 300,000 people (including the children you seems so concerned about). But where were the street demonstrations? Where was the UN issuing arrest warrants for Assad and those states that aided the massacres? Russia, in attempting to save that regime, has used its planes to bomb civilians. No one knows how many died but numbers like 1000 are mentioned including how many children? Wi;; we see street protests. Will the ICC step in? To ask is to answer.

There are mass killings and massacres the world over every year but only Israel is singled out by the international agencies and the antisemite left.

Bemoaning the death of civilians in Gaza while utterly ignoring the cause for those deaths doesn't instil confidence in claims of unbiases. No mention of the massacres on 7 October. No mention of the fact that the civilians are used as human shields by Hamas operatives. No mention of the fact that the level of civilians deaths to combatant deaths in Gaza is the lowest ever in human urban conflict.

The holocaust was the greatest massacre in human history, only equalled by the Holodomor. Israel exists to try to ensure it will never happen again. That state has the right to exist and the right to stand against its foes near and far
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 8 December 2024 4:58:06 PM
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