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It is truly said that the Europeans will never forgive the Jews for the Holocaust ie the Europeans want the world to forget what they did and the Jews won't let them.

But we are told they should just get over it. Jews alone are treated as such. Imagine telling the aboriginals to just get over it. Or the Amer-Indians. The Chinese are forgiven for trying to rectify the wrongs they imagine from the 19th century. Should they just get over it? The Africans. Anyone telling any of these people to just learn to live with it would be treated as racist against that group. Only Jews can be told to just move on. Only Jews are told to turn the other cheek.

Israel exists as the final guarantee of the safety of the Jewish diaspora. Claiming that they don't have the right to maintain and defend that nation, that having missiles lobbed on them is what they deserve is indeed antisemitic.

Thanks mhaze for attempting to explain some things, I genuinely want to understand, I'm not sure I am re-educated yet though.

-Antisemitism or Jew-hatred is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against, Jews.

That doesn't mesh to me with disagreeing with Israel's military actions-> Israel has the largest Jewish population-> So Jews are unlikely to agree with your criticism.... Therefore I must hate Jews?

"Things Israel does are denounced in ways and with force that just doesn't apply to other peoples and states."

Maybe. I think say in Australia, there is just more media coverage, nobody knows much about the Syrian regime here. That may or may not prove your point, but I know I have a lot of criticism about the US foreign policy and actions over the years, so I don't see a double standard.

' the children you seems so concerned about'?

So I just hate Jews, I don't really care about children being killed? Nice

"There are mass killings and massacres the world over every year but only Israel is singled out by the international agencies and the antisemite left."

Maybe we expect better of a country that is the cradle of civilization? I dunno, seems like whataboutism to me. I know I donate to help the people in the Africa flee violence, but I agree I don't really place the same responsibility as I don't see any of the places as very civilized, rich or stable countries as Israel. The US on the other hand have a lot to answer for in South America.

"Imagine telling the aboriginals to just get over it. ...?"

I think that's a straw man argument really.

OK, lets say a bunch of Aboriginals killed raped and took hostage a 1000 people in Northern Australia. How would the world community react to the Aus government mustering up every Aboriginal community from Cairns to Kakadu and forcing them to the top corner of WA and bombing the hell out of them and indiscriminately killing 40000 aboriginal families, kids and all.

Maybe Israel is getting more attention in Australia BECAUSE of the constant lobbying by the hundred different Jewish organisations keeping it in the papers.

"Israel exists as the final guarantee of the safety of the Jewish diaspora. Claiming that they don't have the right to maintain and defend that nation, that having missiles lobbed on them is what they deserve is indeed antisemitic."

Nobody here said or thinks that though. It's the manner in which they maintain and defend and the indifference to suffering of civilians.

"Only Jews are told to turn the other cheek."
I would say rather than being asked to turn the other cheek, they are asked to not use the events of history to justify Israel's actions of the present.

There simply must be a time humans need to Get Over it though. Even the first nation's people. The people who lived around the time of the holocaust, and the Invasion by the British are mostly all dead, their ancestors mostly shamed by their actions, and the whole of society was different. How many years into the future must we try to make amends, when will it ever be enough? When Gaza is wiped from the map and every Palestinian is dead, and when all the non-aboriginals leave the country?

Btw, do you agree or disagree with that minister being denied a Visa? I quoted her above. Is it so that I see children, while you see 'little snakes'

"OK, lets say a bunch of Aboriginals killed raped and took hostage a 1000 people in Northern Australia."

Why would that happen? It might happen if all Indigenous children were brought up to believe it their sacred duty to murder or expel every non-indigenous person from the Australian continent. But Australians rejected Albo's them and us apartheid referendum and instead embraced the democratic principle of equality. It seems a bit primitive to believe that whether you stick a knife in someone or embrace them would depend solely on their ethnicity or religion, and teaching kids as much is unequivocally child abuse, which is what Albo and PenPen are funding with Australian taxpayer revenue via donations to UNRWA.

"Btw, do you agree or disagree with that minister being denied a Visa? I quoted her above. Is it so that I see children, while you see 'little snakes'"

Ah, more "them and us". Think about equality and what it means. It isn't that any death from war isn't a tragedy. The question for Jew haters is why they have a blind spot for about 99% of child deaths and are completely absorbed with with the 1% that they think entitles them to Jew bashing?

Remember the fc from UNRWA caught on cctv chucking a dead Israeli kid in the back of his Albo and PenPen funded UNRWA suv on October 7? Well Israeli got him, then his UNRWA mates held a memorial saying what a great bloke he was. Always helping others.

Funny old world.

The problem is the Islamists demand that all Jews (everywhere) be killed.
Then under the Koran rules their land becomes Islamic land forever.
Actually it is that rule that their conquest of Israel in 637ad makes
Israel Islamic land forever, and is the source of the present troubles.
Will it ever end ?

As deplorable as any tragedy caused by stupid people is, not letting emotion getting in the way of prevention offers a better chance than impossible cure is the only approach to this.
Reality has given the World indisputable proof that peace is not what the Islamic World is after.
Even if the Jewish were to ever suffer the consequences of the Islamist agenda peace would not be a given. So, the answer is to do unto them as they do unto the Jewish & the situation will solve itself !