"They are all out to get us."

Hmmm. Yet another intelligent observation.

Hi Houellebecq,
"It seems that way. The many lobby groups see any criticism at all, even the government backing UN resolutions aimed at reducing civilian deaths (no matter how feasible they would or wouldn't be) as having some relation to 'increasing antisemitism' in Australia."

- There's no such thing as Neutral-Semitism.
There's no room for the middle ground.

Look at the way Jews themselves view things:
Take someone like Normal Finkelstein, what do Jews call him?
- 'Self hating Jew'; essentially a 'Jewish anti-Semite'.

In their eyes, if you are not for 'Pro-Semitism' and support the official narrative, then by default you are for 'Anti-Semtism'.
There's no middle ground, and this is argument they impose upon the rest of us...

So that if someone like you, comes out and says
'Hey, ummm... I don't want to cause any conflict, or be accused of racism.. but umm, I just really want to point out that it's really, REALLY wrong to kill all those women and kids';
(like you're walking on egg-shells trying to make your argument in the most sensitive and considerate way)
- Then by default you're criticising Jews and Israel and by THEIR definition you are an 'Anti-Semite'.

As for me, I just think stuff it who cares, I'm not going to have my mind boxed in by others or allow them to essentially deprive me of my own sense of reason.

I oppose the things Israel does, killing women, kids, journalists etc and we're taught that these things are pillars of western values, so if I am to be called an 'anti-Semite' for opposing genocide for land theft, and the things Israel does, then I'm not going to bother fighting their definition of me.

[They attacked another hospital in Gaza yesterday, 'Kamal Adwan Hospital' - targeted the emergency and ICU units, ambulances etc, droning civilians without prejudice but the worlds focused on Syria and looking the other way.]

Instead I'll wear 'Anti-Semitism' with pride.
- If that's what it means to defend the innocent, and defend the values of respect, decency and dignity in which I've been taught.

I think it's wrong to lump together Jews and Israel.
Just as it's wrong to lump all Muslims with Hamas
and terrorism.

Many Jews don't have an allegiance to Israel, but Israel's
military actions is a concern to them. Not only because of
the suffering of innocents on both sides, but because now
antisemites have an excuse to support their bigotry. Just as
anti-Muslims can now do .

To hate and attack both Jews and Muslims depending on which
side you're on is simply wrong. It's the persecution of
Palestinians by the Israeli government that is at fault.
Just as it's the fault of Hamas for it's barbarism and
reactions. It is possible to be proudly Jewish and anti-
Zionist. Just as it's possible to be proudl;y Muslim and
be against terrorism.

Yet if you speak out against the wickedness of the Israeli
government - you're tarred an antisemite. The same
applies if you speak out pro Palestine - you're tarred
as being a Jew hater.

I'm not very optimistic about the future. Until Israel
and Hamas are made to comply with international law.
But for that to happen Israel must cease its occupation
and take responsibility for its actions. Just as Hamas
must stop it's attacks.

I don't see this happening any time soon.

Hi Foxy,
"Just as it's the fault of Hamas for it's barbarism and reactions."
Really? -And Israels policies are not designed to enrage the Muslims?

I'm not a supporter of Islam, not even fond of it.
- but I'm not a supporter of the evil Israel commits upon these people either.
The argument is framed in a manner that I must support the evil Israel does to oppose the evil that Muslims do.
Right now the West has sponsored terrorists beheading people, you want me to support that for Israel's benefit, if so what happens to my principles?

Saying the Palestinians are wrong for fighting against their own oppression and the atrocities committed upon them is like saying the Jews in German concentration camps would be wrong to stand up against their NAZI oppressors and the atrocities inflicted upon them.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Doing so makes one a hypocrite, without any morals, values or principles.
And if you don't have that, then you stand for nothing.

""OK, lets say a bunch of Aboriginals killed raped and took hostage a 1000 people in Northern Australia."

You go on as as though that were the only issue here. But the 7 October attacks were a culmination of events going back 16 years. Missiles regularly fired at civilians. Suicide bombings. Random murders. More missiles. Constant assertions that war was imminent. And then not just rapes and murders but absolute barbarity, women and children taken back for further humiliation, women paraded through the streets of Gaza to be abused by the baying mobs, bodies defiled by those same mobs. And then finally the assertion that that was just the beginning and that there would be a never-ending series of 7/10s until all the Jews were driven from the Levant.

That is what Israel is dealing with. That is why they are justified in deciding that the situation will be finally resolved. If the aboriginals did that, then yes, we'd be justified in blotting it out.

I'll ask you the same question that a series of posters here have assiduously avoided answering. If you are so concerned about the deaths of Gazan civilians, Gazan children, do you support the idea of ending all the suffering by Hamas surrendering? If Hamas laid down their arms, released all remaining hostages (if there are any) stepped away from power to allow an international body to administer the God-forsaken territory, then the deaths would stop overnight.

Do you support calls for Hamas to immediately surrender or are you, like several other posters here, merely using feigned concern for the Gazans as a means to attack the Jews?

"I feel I need to be re-educated."
- You don't need to feel sorry or be re-educated for standing up for the lives of innocent women and kids.
Period.

You should be congratulated and supported for having the courage to do so in the face of the criticism you stand to receive for holding this moral and principled position, that values human lives.