And those who still can't work out why Trump is so beloved by his followers should read the great Selena Zito on the MAGA phenomena...

http://tiny.cc/1z1uzz

I know you won't read it...but you should if you have any aspirations to understanding the next 4 years.

"There will never be another candidate for president of the United States like Trump.

For his detractors, that is a relief. However, they should understand that whether Trump wins or loses, these voters are here to stay. They have seen what the power of the cultural curators in our country, in academia, media, Hollywood, institutions, and corporations, and in the bureaucracies has done to their lives, and they have rejected it.

It took someone as brash, unconventional, strong, and cheeky as Trump to be the bull in the china shop they wanted to see upended.

The elites mocked them for too long. The elites tried to change their values and their children’s values. The elite movies insulted them. The elite reporting was biased against them. The universities have lost all credibility, and the corporations have decided to dump their decades of loyalty to satisfy a narrow consumer base.

This will come as a surprise to some, but Trump did not create this coalition. He is the result of it. That is what the people who want the Republican Party to be the party of Dick Cheney again do not understand. Both parties have changed. Republicans are now the party of the working class, and the Democrats are the party of the elite."

And people here and elsewhere who claim to be on the side of the workers continue to support the party of the elite....it's not too late to see the light.

Hi Foxy,

ONLY IN AMERICA, I said on several occasions I didn't care who won, I see the American leadership as 2 peas in a pod, simply in place to serve the American military-industrial complex and its desire for world dominance over all others. Providing he doesn't start WWIII I'm ambivalent about Trump, his policies are mostly targeting domestic issues. The only reason I ever gave for wanting a Harris victory was to see Mr Mhaze Trumpster in his buffalo horn outfit and grease paint, storming the Capitol Building in January. Internationally Trump will give the Zionists and the Ruskies what they want, but not much else.

p/s I watched a bit of the boring nonsense yesterday, red state, blue state, Yanks with drooly accents and all that crap. Eventually watched an old movie instead.

“The whole rotten edifice and the enormous costs Net Zero is bringing will be torn down within a year” (Alan Moran) when Donald Trump takes over. The climate scam is currently headed to cost America $ 3 trillion per year by 2050.

We Australians are constantly reminded that we pay more than Americans do for our electricity, and according to JD Vance, America's already costs 30% more than it did when Harris was standing in for Biden, with another 30% increase on the way. Petrol prices are up by 42%.

The fear of a Trump victory has seen European companies abandoning their expansion plans: something they should have done long ago. Germany's switch to green energy achieved next to nothing. In 2010, 79.6% of German energy was powered by fossil fuels. In 2022, it had declined by just 0.3 percentage points to 79.3%.

In Australia, even the abominable Bowen knew that his evil plans to make things so much harder for people would be affected by a Trump Presidency.

All those lovely subsidies will disappear.

“The US election result should be a warning for Anthony Albanese and his Labor hacks. It should be a warning for the snooty conservative-lites who hide in the Liberal Party. It should send a cold shiver up the spine of Australian elites who love to preach at the great unwashed” (Senator Ralph Babet”).

The next 4 years of the Trump presidency - will be
a warning to us all. It will take decades to fully recover
from it. If we ever do.

Foxy, who throughout the presidential campaign period, assiduously avoided any attempt to understand the Trump agenda, suddenly decides, against all indications, that she knows what the Trump agenda will be. It'd probably be more honest to adopt Paul's process of throwing up your hands and saying its all too complicated and going off to watch and old movie - One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, perhaps?

What these people don't, and probably never will, understand is that this was an inflection point in US history and therefore the history of western civilisation.

Blacks (at least black men) moved toward MAGA. Latinos moved significantly toward MAGA. While women moved decisively toward MAGA. Young men and women, Generation Z (born between 1995 and 2010), moved in massive numbers toward MAGA. As I've been trying to get those in our midst who think of themselves as friends of the worker, workers moved toward MAGA.

The left in America now represent the wealthy and the credentialled. Its yet to be seen if MAGA can consolidate this new alignment but the notion that working class whites, blacks and Latinos are all under the one tent, is massive. Many don't understand that.

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As regards foreign policy, Qatar has now told those leaders of Hamas who are hiding in Qatar to leave asap. Trump's not even sworn in and the world is bowing to his will.