The Trump agenda:

http://politico.com/news/2024/11/06/donald-trump-second-term-policies-00187157

If you don't like these. I'm sure he'll be able to fin
others for you.

Americans have spoken. They'll get another chance to do so in
4 years time.

The appalling Democrat candidate wasn't the only thing that got Trump elected despite all the muck that was thrown at him. Muck had to be thrown because the Democrats via Harris had no policies. There was nothing good to be said about their current rule.

Americans, suffering under the most Left wing government ever, suddenly remembered everything Trump got right when he was President last time: and the fact that nothing Hollywood stars said about him occurred then.

Elon Musk looks like bring appointed to sort out the public service. He's the right man for that job after his cull of commos out of Twitter.

As well as a Trump, Australia could do with a Musk.

As of now, the Albanese government has created a 3.6% increase in our public service. We are now paying $230 billion for "workers" who add no growth or benefits to the economy.

If I was in the position you are:

Spending a year trying very hard to NOT know what Trump's policies were
Spending a year believing every cockamamie claim made by your gurus about Trump
Spending the last few months in certainty that Harris would win
Spending a year trying very hard to NOT realise that I was backing the elites in their battle with the working class

And then after all that getting smacked over the head with a reality check

And then finally realising it might be time to find out what Trump's MAGA is all about...

if I was in that position, I wouldn't go running off to one of the most anti-MAGA sites on the WWW (Politico) to beg them to tell me what I wanted to hear.

I'd go to the source and find out directly from MAGA what MAGA was about. I'd try to do proper research not go looking for comforting fables.

But that's just me.

Trumpster,

If the 2020 election was rigged as claimed, and it resulted in Biden winning, can we not assume the 2024 was also rigged to give Trump victory. So don't put away your buffalo horn outfit and red, white and blue grease paint just yet, you may be be required once more to lead the fight for truth, justice and the American way! Otherwise we can just order in pizza and stay at home. What do you think? For me the pizza sound good, 'Meat Lovers' for me.

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Dear mhaze,

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Sorry to have taken so long to reply to your post dated Thursday, 7 November 2024 10:22:56 AM. Workers next door accidentally cut the fibre in the building they were reconstructing so we all got cut off from the internet. I am back on now with a temporary Wi-Fi connection.

You wrote :

« You started this thread by claiming the US democracy was flawed because people won the Electoral College and therefore the presidency while not winning the popular vote.

But now Trump has won the popular vote as well. And your response? The US democracy is flawed. Clearly, you just want to claim its flawed and the reason is, as far as you're concerned, mere window dressing. »
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I started this thread by stating :

« The US is rated by the Economist Intelligence Unit as a “flawed democracy” and has been for the past 8 years. It is “flawed” because Americans don’t seem to care much for democracy – rule by the people, for the people – because that’s not exactly the way it works. »

Nothing has changed, mhaze. The people still don’t elect the president directly by their vote. The Electoral College elects the president.

In the 2020 presidential election Biden won both the Electoral College vote and the popular vote, but that did not change the fact that the US democracy is flawed – anymore than Trump’s election did in 2024.

If you wish to understand what the Economist Intelligence Unit’s classification of a “flawed democracy” means, I suggest you read my exchange with Rhian who was the first to reply to my initial post on this thread.

As I think you will see, it has nothing to do with “window dressing” as you suggest and unlike you, mhaze, I have no political bias. I see myself as a pragmatist with what I consider to be a strict minimum of humanistic values and principles that every decent human being should possess.

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“Donald Trump’s victory will change the fate of the world, and shake up other leaderships whose predominantly left-wing politicians have spent the last few years sneering and saying regrettable things about the man who is about to be in charge of their security. There has been a long line of congratulatory comments, most of which have included uncharacteristic grovelling. It is lucky for them that Trump has a history of pragmatism and forgiveness.”