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America’s Flawed Democracy

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http://factcheck.org/2024/08/trumps-false-and-misleading-claims-about-harris-record-on-crime/
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 November 2024 3:14:00 PM
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"Videos can be manipulated. And this was clearly done with Harris"

Like I said....bonkers.

We all know you don't want this to be true and in Foxyland that's the same as it not being true.

But it is true.... http://tiny.cc/y6fvzz

We all know you won't read that because why read something that proves what you don't want to be true, is indeed true.

BTW, not a word about truancy in your last link. Standard Foxy there...when you know you're wrong, change the subject.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 15 November 2024 4:41:08 PM
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Dear mhaze,

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I’m sorry, but in your last post to me you seem to be turning in circles.

I already explained how a guru (Trump) communicates with his disciples and cited the infamous example of Charles Manson who exploited the power he exercised over his disciples to influence them to commit murder without having to specifically tell them to do so.

Even though he did not tell his disciples to commit murder, he was found guilty of "first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for the deaths of seven people, including the film actress Sharon Tate", and spent the rest of his life in prison where he died.

Corrupt gurus never assume responsibility for their disciples’ acts, mhaze. They never tell them what to do or not to do. They manipulate their disciples to get them to do what they want.

Trump did not specifically tell his disciples to storm the Capitol to prevent his vice-president, Mike Pence, from validating the election of Joe Biden, but they understood what their guru wanted them to do and he was responsible for what they did - even though he would never admit it.

I think we had better leave it at that, mhaze.

With best wishes …

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 16 November 2024 3:12:32 AM
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Your Manson analogy is insane. No one died on January 6 other than a protester.

Your claim that Manson didn't tell his followers what to do is plain wrong. (" Watson later claimed that Manson had instructed him to go to the house and "totally destroy" everyone in it, and to do it "as gruesome as you can"). Just another fact about this that you'll need to ignore to maintain your fantasy.

Struth... Trump told his people to commit insurrection by not telling them to commit insurrection. TDS in spades, with bells on.

The world changed last week. Its a shame you'll never understand it.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 16 November 2024 6:12:29 AM
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mhaze,

I understand that as a Trump true believer you are going
to keep the faith.

Trump puts on a show unlike anyone else in politics.

However I don't buy what he's selling.
Nor am I going to buy any Trump calendars, key chains,
and other regalia sold at his rallies with captions such as
"Gun rights matter", "Fight for Trump", "Jesus is my saviour",
or "Trump is my president".

For those reasons I agree with Banjo :

"I think we'd better leave it at that".

Enjoy your week-end.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 November 2024 9:14:08 AM
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Dear mhaze,

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Tex Watson is not a very reliable witness I’m afraid, mhaze. In fact, he’s not reliable at all.

He was not able to be tried with Charles Manson and the other members of the “Manson family” as they were called. He was sent to the state mental hospital after he was declared an insane “vegetable” who went into catatonic trances and refused to eat. He remained there until he was judged fit to stand trial some months later.

He pleaded innocent because of insanity to the seven murders of which he was accused. His lawyers contended he was not responsible for the murders because he was under the influence of both hallucinogenic drugs and Mansion.

Watson was tried, convicted and sentenced to death in 197, but California did away with the death penalty the following year. He is now 79 years old and still in jail, serving his life sentence.

Watson has been described as Manson’s right-hand man. He commanded the killings jointly with Manson.
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In closing this discussion, mhaze, it is with much regret that I have to admit that, judging from your posts, it seems I was a little too optimistic in thinking that you were possibly not a member of the Trump sect.

Never mind. I guess there’s still hope. Time heals what reason cannot, so they say.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 17 November 2024 4:17:52 AM
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