"He commanded the killings jointly with Manson."

Finally. That's what I've trying to get you to understand. Manson commanded the killings. Trump didn't.

Boy it was a hard road but we got there.

"[You are] a member of the Trump sect."

Sect you say? Along with 80 million Usians? But not a sect, a political awakening. Its sad that this renaissance is happening, unnoticed, under your very nose. But history shows that, for the unimaginative, the great movements of human culture only become obvious in the rear-view mirror.

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I saw this and immediately thought... "if only Foxy could understand this"

A journalist was investigating RFK Jr's attitude to fluoride and found that he had science on his side when she started off thinking he was a nutter. She wrote... "Something isn’t automatically wrong because I didn’t know about it before or because it’s espoused by people with whom I have other disagreements. "

If only...

If only?

"My promise is that I will strive to be as objective as
I can and always base my analysis on a careful evaluation
of the science".
(Dr Leana S. Wen).

http://washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/14/fluoride-water-kennedy-rfk-brain-development/

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Dear mhaze,

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I see you want to continue this discussion. I’m happy to reply once more, but I do think we have exhausted the subject and can only repeat ourselves.

You wrote :

« "He commanded the killings jointly with Manson."

Finally. That's what I've trying to get you to understand. Manson commanded the killings. Trump didn't. »
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I’m afraid you’re confusing things again, mhaze.

If you care to read my post of Saturday 16 November 2024 3:12:32 AM on page 31 of this thread you will see that I wrote :

« I already explained how a guru (Trump) communicates with his disciples and cited the infamous example of Charles Manson who exploited the power he exercised over his disciples to influence them to commit murder without having to specifically tell them to do so.

Even though he did not tell his disciples to commit murder he was found guilty of "first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for the deaths of seven people, including the film actress Sharon Tate", and spent the rest of his life in prison where he died.

Corrupt gurus never assume responsibility for their disciples’ acts, mhaze. They never tell them what to do or not to do. They manipulate their disciples to get them to do what they want.

Trump did not specifically tell his disciples to storm the Capitol to prevent his vice-president, Mike Pence, from validating the election of Joe Biden, but they understood what their guru wanted them to do and he was responsible for what they did - even though he would never admit it »

Once again, I think we had better leave it at that, mhaze.

And, once again, I wish you all the best, mhaze.

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I think you've talked yourself into a corner but haven't got the cojones to admit it. You can't simultaneously assert that "He commanded the killings jointly with Manson" while claiming that Manson didn't command the killings.

But yes we need to stop. The idiocy of claiming that Trump ordered the attack on the congress while admitting he said nothing of the sort is too much. That's why charges were never bought against Trump. They weren't sure they'd find 12 fools who'd fall for that.

To end on a happier note....
http://x.com/i/status/1858294638286721324

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Dear mhaze,

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Many thanks for that enlightening exchange, mhaze. I appreciate it.

As Carl Jung wisely observed :

« Everyone you meet knows something you don’t know but need to know. Learn from them »

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Abraham Lincoln once said:

"I learn from everybody, even if sometimes it's what
not to do".