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Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 4:38:19 PM
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Trump's final address to the nation before the election.
http://twitter.com/i/status/1853515403106099557 Speaking of those lawyers working to stop the steal. another victory for them... http://tiny.cc/g0ptzz Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 4:47:12 PM
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mhaze is now totally off the planet, he claims that some, wait for it, anonymous Facebook posters daughters friend, told her daughter that she had seen, Haitians eating her cat, and that local authorities, probably more anonymous Facebook posters, had said they were doing the same with ducks and geese." A mate of mine,told me his neighbours cousin twice removed seen mhaze eating garden worms! The blokes a fruitcake, its no wonder he loves Trump.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 5:29:42 PM
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Judgment Day 5 November 2024 . America’s Flawed Democracy is under stress. It stands on three pillars : 1. “All men are created equal” (US Declaration of Independence) 2. Rule by the people in the common interest (Democracy) 3. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances (First Amendment to the Constitution) Aristotle liked democratic systems because he believed in the wisdom of crowds. He noted : “If the people are not utterly degraded, although individually they may be worse judges than those who have special knowledge, as a body they are as good or better.” He considered that the best political community is formed of citizens of the middle class, and that states that are likely to be well-administered, are those in which the middle class is large – larger than both the other classes : rich and poor. He says that larger middle classes produce more stable states. Thus, the middle class is key in the establishment and maintenance of a polity (an ideal democracy that governs in the interest of all, not just the leadership). Because they are not in extreme need nor extreme wealth, their assessment of the common interest will produce the greatest benefit for all members. Critically, he explains : “There are two parts of good government; one is the actual obedience of citizens to the laws, the other part is the goodness of the laws which they obey.” We must pay close attention to the content of the laws we’re following. They must constantly be reevaluated to make sure they remain consistent with the common interest. Nevertheless, for Aristotle, there is no clear-cut best system. He warns : “None of the principles on which men claim to rule, and hold other men in subjection to them, are strictly right.” When America’s flawed democracy is stressed, the free world holds its breath. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 1:37:06 AM
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US election day 2024 is finally here.
Predicting the winner ahead of time is difficult due to the polls showing - it's too close to call. If Harris is elected - she'll be the first female US president. If Trump wins he'll be the first convicted criminal to win the White House and gain access to nuclear codes. If Trump falls short the 78 year old faces more humiliating courtroom trials and potentially time behind bars. This would be the end of a charmed life in which he's somehow always managed to outrun the law and duck responsibility. The property-developer and reality TV star has spent his career pushing ethical and legal boundaries to the limit, facing countless investigations, court battles, and hefty fines. His life has been a life of scandal on a gargantuan scale. Here's an excerpt from a recently seen cartoon: " They're going to indict you for Jan 6". To which Trump replies: Jan? She's not my type. And, Trump's excuse on returning classified secret documents: "It's not a secret if I tell everybody". The defense rests. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 5:28:25 AM
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Paul,
As usual the facts go flying over your head. The point is that there were [people talking about the issue in various forums in and around Springfield. That means that when Trump talked about it, he wasn't making stuff up or lying, as you ignorantly claimed. Unlike Kamala's claim to have worked at Maccas or your claim that muslim is a race. But too much for Paul to comprehend. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 5:50:39 AM
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A convict felon? Like Alexei Navalny? Luckily the US gets to make that choice. Unlike Russia.
People will vote for Trump despite the fake court cases because those who are informed (unlike some we know!!) know that they were fabricated charges and that those that haven't already unravelled will be overturned on appeal.
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Its always mildly amusing when Paul asks for evidence. The man who lives in a fact free environment and has specifically said he refuses to provide evidence for his daffy ideas.
"Facebook posts on local Springfield crime-watch groups started making similar claims, with one supposed resident whose post went viral saying their "daughter's friend" had seen Haitians eating her cat and that local authorities had said they were doing the same with ducks and geese."
As usual Paul concentrates on the trivial because the substantive is beyond his understanding.