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Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 4 November 2024 7:43:19 PM
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Dear mhaze, . You wrote : 1. « As Elon Musk has pointed out, if Harris, as the figurehead for the US ruling elite, wins this one, there will never be another free and fair federal election in the US. The US will continue its slow decline to irrelevance even while the elite feast on the carcass. » . That sounds like a threat, Mhaze, an attempt at intimidation to terrorise and influence voters : “if you vote for Harris, … the elite [will] feast on the carcass !”. The January 6 insurrection at the Capitol marked a peak in extremist intimidation. But it was not the only act of political violence. There was the 2017 shooting of U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise and colleagues by a Trump detractor. There was the hammer attack on U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s husband by a right-wing conspiracy theorist who sought the then House speaker in her home. Then there were threats by Republican extremists against Republican members of Congress for refusing to support their preferred candidate for speaker. Intimidation, abuse, and violence are toxic to democracy. Elon Musk’s intimidation attempt is toxic to democracy. . 2. « This of coarse would be a disaster for Australia and the western world and a victory for China/Russia/Iran which is why they are cheering for Harris. » . That is partly true, but mostly false, mhaze. The US National Intelligence Council released a security update warning Americans about foreign election interference : “Foreign actors — particularly Russia, Iran, and China — remain intent on fanning divisive narratives to divide Americans and undermine Americans’ confidence in the U.S. democratic system consistent with what they perceive to be in their interests.” Having previously warned that Russia was working to boost the chances of Trump, it advised that Iran has been working to hurt Trump’s re-election. While there is little evidence to suggest China has sought to affect the U.S. presidential race, intelligence officials have said Beijing has been focusing its efforts on congressional and state and local candidates perceived to be promoting policies detrimental to Beijing's interests. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 4 November 2024 10:14:47 PM
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Dear Banjo and Paul,
We've all heard the fake news, read the published falsehoods, the hoaxes, the conspiracy theories - the malicious attempts to destroy the country. And there undoubtedly will be more to come if the man loses. How can this man be removed? Non-stick spray? A crowbar? Or have criminal charges brought against him? Trump supporters still look upon him as a unicorn. They don't see the reality of the goat they're supporting. http://politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/20/trump-overturn-2024-election-plan-00184103 Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 10:03:10 AM
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"That sounds like a threat, Mhaze, an attempt at intimidation to terrorise and influence voters"
Oh really?. To me it sounded like a prediction based on a solid understanding of the last decade. "There was the 2017 shooting of U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise and colleagues by a Trump detractor." The shooter was a Bernie Sanders supporter!! Struth. "attack on U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s husband by a right-wing conspiracy theorist " Zero evidence for that. The bloke was a nutter but his political affiliations are unknown. OTOH it could have been a homosexual sexual liaison gone wrong. but that's been covered up....for now. ___________________________________________________________________ One more of the vast numbers of examples of cheating.... http://tiny.cc/88ntzz OTOH there is some fightback... http://tiny.cc/m8ntzz ______________________________________________________________________ Speaking of intimidation, Trump's team have gathered a force of around 1000 lawyers who will be available to step and an try to nip any discovered cases of cheating at the bud. Digital messages are now doing the rounds in legal circles advising these lawyers that there are people who will seek to destroy their careers if they work for Trump. Fascism exemplified. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 10:26:51 AM
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The American people will make history in their 2024
election. They have the choice of electing the nation's first woman president or a convicted felon. In the eyes of the law, if not the country and the world, Donald Trump remains an unrepentant fraudster and predator awaiting a likely prison sentence. History awaits! Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 1:14:33 PM
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mhaze, how are you going with the evidence "Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating peoples pets" So far nothing but nonsense from you on the subject.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 3:53:40 PM
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I hope Trump looses, for no other reason that to see the likes of good olde' boy mhaze in his buffalo horn outfit and red, white and blue grease paint on his face running down Pennsylvania Avenue with his pants on fire. Of course DDD will be directing operations with his buddies Elon and JD through "X" from the safety of Ding Dong HQ in Florida!