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The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

Kaplan also flatly rejected the Trump team’s suggestion that the conduct Trump was found liable for might have been as limited as groping of the breasts.

The reason? Trump was not accused of that, so the only alleged offense that would have qualified as “sexual abuse” was forced digital penetration. Beyond that, Trump was accused of putting his mouth on Carroll’s mouth and pulling down her tights, which Kaplan noted were not treated as alleged sexual abuse at trial.

“The jury’s finding of sexual abuse therefore necessarily implies that it found that Mr. Trump forcibly penetrated her vagina,” Kaplan wrote, calling it the “only remaining conclusion.”

Kaplan also noted that the verdict form did not ask the jury to decide exactly what conduct Trump had committed, and that neither prosecutors nor Trump’s lawyers had requested it to do so.

“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.

He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”

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Dear Banjo,

In short:

Donald Trump is running a relentlessly dishonest campaign
for the world's most powerful office.

Wildly exaggerating statistics, grossly distorting his
opponents record and his own and regularly just simply
making stuff up. Trump is lying to American voters with
a frequency and variety whose only precedent is his own
previous campaigns.

He's told people how schools are secretly sending children
for gender affirming surgeries without parental consent.
How town and even cities are conquered by illegal immigrants.
He tells voters about pervasive election fraud. He talks
about the highest inflation of all time. And he tells voters
that presiding over all of this is an illegitimate president
who stole the job from the rightful winner - from him.

None of this is true. Yet Trump keeps telling the crowds that
it is.

Thank you for your links.

It will be interesting to see how America votes in the
upcoming election.

One thing is for sure. There has never been a a president who
has lied about so many different things or made up so many things.
The United States that Trump describes in his rally speeches
would be pretty bad if it actually existed. None of it is true.
However, the scary thing is - if the man does get elected -
the lies could easily become true under his time in office.

Americans need to be careful with who they give power to.
Make America Great Again?
Sadly, it's all about making Trump Great Again. And making America
hate again.

I'll be wishing for sanity to prevail on their election day.

But I won't be holding my breath.

Dear Banjo,

The farce that is Donald Trump has gone on for long
enough. It is time that this matter was settled once and for all.
America would be vastly improved if the man could just go
back to being a TV personality and showman. Elon Musk could
help him with that.

That's right Banjo - not rape but sexual abuse.

Glad you caught up.

Of coarse, this was a civil case not a criminal case, held in the most anti-Trump precinct in the most anti-Trump state in the nation.

Its been appealed and will eventually get to a court outside New York where reality and rationality will prevail. Its a bit like the Pell abomination of a trial in that regard. As soon as it got appealed outside Victoria he was completely exonerated. Same here.

But it does serve to demonstrate the two-tiered nature of US justice under the current Democrat junta. The case only proceeded because NY changed to law specifically to allow it to proceed. Worse, the evidence is effectively non-existent (like Pell). Biden OTOH has been accused of rape with far superior evidence but no one ever thought for a moment he'd be charged. Being a Democrat is a get out of jail free card.

Similar to the classified document case where the evidence against Biden is far better than that against Trump. but Trump was raided and charged while Biden was let go because the prosecutor said he was too dotty to stand trial.

Foxy regurgitated lies she's been told....

"He's told people how schools are secretly sending children
for gender affirming surgeries without parental consent."

He didn't say that.

"How town and even cities are conquered by illegal immigrants."
That's a fact.

"He tells voters about pervasive election fraud. "
He tells them what actually happened.

" He talks about the highest inflation of all time."

It was.

Foxy just because you have neither the inclination nor the ability to look at these things without relying on the anti-Trump media, doesn't make it so.

mhaze,

You can choose to deny everything. But what comes
out of the man's mouth does make it so!

I don't choose to deny everything. I look for the data and form a view based on that. You should try it some time rather than just regurgitating the lies you choose to fall for.

For example he never said schools were sending kids for surgery. Just that in some locations they were helping kids to transition behind their parents back. California actually has legislation to facilitate that.

But you wouldn't understand that.