cont'd ...

To quell this disorder the government has said the rioters
will face the full force of the law. Nearly 600 additional
prison places are being made available and specialist officers
are being drafted in.

A 58 year old man has been jailed for 3 years.

The government has also vowed to go after not just the
rioters but those who used social media to spread the trouble.

One man has been charged with using threatening words and
behaviour intending to stir up hatred on posts.

Britain's science engineer Peter Kyle has met with
representatives from TikTok, Meta, Google and X, to enforce
the message that they all had a responsibility for helping to
stop incitement and the spread of false information and
personal attacks.

In an environment where people get door knocks and threats by the police for having the wrong opinions, I'm not surprised if YouGov expresses a biased highly distorted opinion. People don't trust the government do you think it's going to trust systems that are perceived as representing the establishment, even if they're anonymous. In polling often anti-establishment movements don't participate so to get a gauge of this effect it's necessary to get a measure of the participation rate. If the participation rate is high it can make polling data biased.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov#Allegations_of_poll_manipulation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FiveThirtyEight
Remember the ratings agency scandals ten years before- I wonder where these employees went after they finished. Perhaps data needs to be kept on those working within the statistics field that have engaged in suspect or deceptive practices in the past.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_rating_agencies_and_the_subprime_crisis

Anecdotally the public is confused with cause and effect of government policy and fail to model phenomena. Perhaps statisticians are like lawyers and pharma companies and universities- they don't ask a question for which they don't already know the answer. The type of controlled opposition that has contempt for the public.

Confucism says "rulers are critical for the stability of community".

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/special/china_1000bce_confucius_intro.htm

Tests of the good ruler were social stability, population growth (a reflection of ancient statecraft where the good ruler was one who could attract people from other states), welfare. The Mandate of Heaven was understood as justifying the right to rule, with the corollary right to rebel against a ruler who did not fulfill his duties to the people. State played roles in water rights, famine control and relief, social stability. The state encouraged people to grow rice and other grains rather than commercial crops in order to insure and adequate food supply; it held reserves in state granaries, in part to lessen the effects of drought and floods, particularly common in northern China. For fear of losing the Mandate of Heaven governments levied very low taxes which often meant that the government could not provide all the services expected of it, and that officials ended up extorting money from the people.

Foxy,

If you read the article you linked to about British multiculturalism you'd see that they were talking about immigration post WW2. Sure there were immigrants from Ireland and a smaller number from other parts of Europe in the past few centuries, but that hardly counts as multiculturalism.

Its just bonkers, or more bonkers, to say that 17th century England was a multicultural haven because it had an Irish component. It'd be like moving a family from Launceston to Ballarat and then declaring Ballarat to be a multicultural mecca.

Foreign , truly foreign cultures arrived in England post-WW2 and even then in small manageable numbers. It was the Blair government that decided to import massive numbers of future Labour voters in the 1990s that caused the real problems.

Mark Steyn, among others, was predicting as far back as 2005 that this wasn't going to end well. As the cultural and political elites ignored and then tried to suppress the concerns of the ordinary indigenous English to the destruction of the nation, the bottled up resistance was certain to eventually explode. The death of 3 little girls was merely the catalyst for the mayhem. While-ever people could be convinced that the solution was through the ballot box they were prepared to bide their time. But they no longer believe the political elite will save the British culture.

It is the same with the French yellow vests, and the Dutch farmer revolts and the German AfD. All through Europe, the Muslim invasion is finally being resisted.

When you look at the vision in the UK - to see all
that anger which is coming from a comparatively
small number of people should make us realize
that in Australia we should be on a threat level
alert. It's a warning and making us aware of what
can happen if more Australians will embrace a more
diverse range of extreme ideologies and become
willing to use violence to advance their cause.

The last time London saw this kind of violence was
in 2011.

http://australiainstitute.org.au/post/australias-democracy-isnt-perfect-but-many-of-you-just-changed-the-country/

I'm concerned that authorities are pointing to Far Right politics as a way of minimalizing the concerns of the British people over the issues surrounding the terror of the 25 girls, 11 of who were stabbed, 3 who were killed, the youngest being 6 years old. Opinions on issues will come from various sources the responsibility for rulers is to ensure that children aren't stabbed in the community, not to complain that the criticism is unfair after the fact. What the Woke/ Marxist's label as Far Right I label as Traditionalist's- and they are correct in that this seems to be an 'effect' of ethnic identity conflict within Britain and elsewhere that Woke/ Marxist's have 'caused'. Cause and effect.

Woke Marxism in institutions such as universities is complicit in this terror campaign that has given rise to these types of murderous outcomes. These institutions start with the core universities as well as other downstream institutions such as law and order, politicized public policy, media commentariat, schools.

These contempting institutions are paid off in economic benefits obtained through job security, promotion, and superior salaries and impacting the contemptible public.

In many cases in public policy, the public were never asked.

I see Foxy and Paul1405 as apologist's for this Woke/ Marxist view that is complicit in the crime.

People that claim the interest of the people need to start listening to the Traditionalist's rather than showing them contempt- but as with the Scorpion and the Frog the scorpion has it's nature.

"To quell this disorder the government has said the rioters
will face the full force of the law. "

To suppress the concerns of the natives, the British government is using its monopoly on violence to squash the uprising. Note that they are doing this to one side. There is footage of police telling Muslim rioters to hide the weapons to avoid arrest. There is footage of a lone speaker being arrests for reading out of the Bible which rioters were calling for the Death to Israel.

The British government is claiming that it is now illegal to share footage of the protests on the basis that it is sharing hate speech.

Britain used to be a democracy and used to have freedom of speech. Any wonder that people have concluded that the British heritage is being destroyed by this alien multiculturalism.

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Freedom is also under siege elsewhere in Europe. There was footage of a young German being attacked by a gang of foreigners in school. The German government have decreed that it is illegal to share that footage. Germans have to continue to pretend that the violence only comes from the whites.

In sweden a journalist collated government statistics to show just how bad the rape culture there had become, even as the government tried to suppress the data. He is now on trial for hate crimes. Get it, they don't care about Swedish women being raped, just care that to protect the rapists.

And we saw it here as the government tried to suppress distribution of the knife attack on a Christian cleric. Again, the actual attack wasn't the problem as far as the government was concerned, just the reaction to it.

There was a famous quote from a Tim Blair blog years ago... Muslim leaders are concerned about the violent backlash to tomorrow's bombing.