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The Vaping Epidemic And Law Reform

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The stupid's express path to self-destruction is constantly made safe & actually boosts rather than diminish the numbers of the stupid !
No wonder the gene pool is not clearing up !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 1 July 2024 12:51:04 PM
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Marlboro Man,

Of course if you place a big tax on tobacco, and smokers see a cheaper alternative, in this case vaping, and if those who profit from vaping i.e. BIG TOBACCO cleverly market their deadly product as being "safe" then of course there will be a decrease in smoking and a corresponding increase in vaping, that stands to reason.

You fail to present any evidence that the NZ government actively encouraged people to vape. They facilitated people to vape, without actively encouraging them to do so. Show me evidence from the NZ government that they actively promoted vaping in society. I note you have shifted from "actively promoted vaping" to a new line of "vaping as an important tool ". You referring to ASH is not referencing the NZ Government, ASH is in their words; "Action for Smokefree 2025 is an incorporated society" The only ones actively promoting vaping as safe are your mates, the grubs from BIG TOBACCO.

Obviously you are either severely addicted to nicotine, and delude yourself into believing the deadly habit is safe, or you are a major shareholder in BIG TOBACCO, I tend to believe the former, you have a deadly addiction. As the heavily addicted Yul Brynner said shortly before he died from smoking related lung cancer; "DON'T SMOKE!"
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 1 July 2024 5:13:07 PM
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"DON'T SMOKE!"
Paul1405,
Well, those words were utterly wasted in this, the nr one drug abusing Nation !
As things stand, it'd be best to just let them go for it, they'd be doing the rest of us a big favour !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 1 July 2024 11:01:31 PM
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Not a smoker.
Not a vaper.
Not a shareholder in any tobacco firms.

I just like presenting the facts.

You should try it some time.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 1 July 2024 11:34:15 PM
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Marlboro Man,

I expected you would rush to deny you smoke or vape, like the 7 day a week alcoholic, who claims to be nothing more that "a social drinker, who can give up at any time", the nicotine addicted are often in denial. I recommend the 'QUITLINE' to you before it's too late.

As for your claim that you present facts, NO YOU DO NOT. You made the claim that the NZ Government actively promoted vaping as a safe alternative to tobacco smoking, NO THEY DID NOT, you failed to provide a scintilla of evidence to back your claims, pointing to a private organisation 'ASH' as evidence, NO IT IS NOT. When I pointed to the fact the NZ Government exponentially increased tobacco tax, and by default increased vaping, you even tried to deny that. As I asked before provide evidence, was there a catchy ad campaign by the NZG encouraging people to vape, NO THERE WAS NOT. Did the NZG provide evidence that vaping was safe NO THEY DID NOT. You are simply full of hot carbon monoxide! DON'T SMOKE!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 4:28:02 AM
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For crying out loud ! There's a way to filter the gene pool & some non thinking hangers on want to prevent it from happening ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 5:04:01 PM
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