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Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 10:48:01 AM
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Unless your name is Google ... Stop acting like you
know everything. Talking about gullible? Who's a Trump supporter? Get your megaphone ready. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 11:26:28 AM
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Hi Paul,
Here's a link that may be of interest: http://sbs.com.au/news/article/as-australia-faces-a-vaping-epidemic-this-is-the-warning-from-experts/aw5gwrsxa Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 11:40:29 AM
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Hi Paul,
We've all heard it before so many times. Experts are on the take. They don't know what they're talking about. Don't listen to them. It's all "fake news!" Listen to "Moe" instead! I always get it right. Zippity do dah. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 11:45:24 AM
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"Unless your name is Google".
No. My name is DuckDuckGo. Anyone using Google is asking to be led down the garden path. "Stop acting like you know everything." Its not an act.... </grin> It seems that Foxy has decided that she's sick of being made to look the fool so often and that's its better to just throw a tantrum. Probably a good call. I couldn't fit the appropriate links in earlier but here are SOME of the science - ie not the propaganda - around this.... http://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2021-065997 http://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-less-harmful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review http://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a74ccd1e5274a3cb2867479/Ecigarettes_a_firm_foundation_for_evidence_based_policy_and_practice.pdf Vaping is basically legal in places like New Zealand, the UK, the USA, Japan and most European countries. New Zealand halved its smoking rate following the legalisation and promotion of vaping. (Quick, pretend that's not true). So many countries are fine with vaping but here we are weeping that the sky is falling. And the usual crowd buy it. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 12:19:09 PM
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mhaze,
Don't worry. That's the way - Aha Aha I like it! Aha Aha! Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 12:32:36 PM
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Just some facts....
* the only real study into the health effects of vaping was done in Britain a few years back. It found that vaping was 95% SAFER than smoking. One of the authors later agreed that they only said 95% safer because no scientist ever wants to say 100% safer even though they found no adverse health issues.
* Most vapes sold in Australia don't contain nicotine. Quite how you get 'hooked' on them isn't explained.
* Nicotine isn't dangerous. Vaping nicotine is addictive but not dangerous. Indeed nicotine can be considered a beneficial drug is certain circumstances
* if nicotine is dangerous, why are nicotine patches and gum freely available off the shelf with no restrictions on age?
* Vapes contain a range of chemicals that, in quantity, are dangerous or linked to cancer. But as with all things, the poison is in the dose. H2O is dangerous at high enough levels. The chemicals in vapes are at such minutely small quantities that only recent technology is able to detect it.
* the fumes that vapers emit are the same as the fumes you see from artificial fog. If you've ever been to a show with artificial fog, you've inhaled the same stuff. But I don't see call to ban 'Les Miserable'.
* people who built a career around anti-smoking campaigns saw their raison d'être disappearing as smoking subsided. They then found a new reason to justify their existence. Some call it the "March of the Dimes Syndrome".
* as usual, when the facts don't stack up, the activists revert to the claim they are saving the kids. They aren't.