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Trump Found Guilty: What happens next?

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mhaze,

There must be 100 million Trumpsters in America, "the website to make donations to the Trump election campaign crashed" what, were you trying to stuff a monkey into your 'puter? Anyway we know how wacko Trumsters really are, we get it all the time from your posts.

p/s a "monkey" is slang for 500 quid (more slang).
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 31 May 2024 4:10:07 PM
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Trumps not going to make America great again.
He'll be lucky if he even wins.

The Democrats have engaged in some really dirty stuff.
Usually the political class refrains from putting their political opponents in jail, because they don't want to face the same thing when they lose office.
Now they will have to rig the election to save their own hides because Democrats can probably expect the same treatment if Republicans gain office.

Overall America is haddit anyway.
It's a crumblimg empire eating itself.
They're quite willing to sacrifice even their own allies to try and save themselves.
- But it's not going to make any difference either way.

US Panic: FED Admits The Economy & Dollar In Danger As Countries Lose Faith In U.S. Debt
http://youtu.be/GSUsNjMkw0c
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 31 May 2024 6:04:45 PM
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When Putin's regime used a series of trumped up charges to arrest. convict and gaol Alexei Navalny, anyone with two brain cells to rub together who wasn't a Putin apologist, knew that this was just a authoritarian regime ridding itself of an effective and dangerous critic. No one who understands such things was surprised when Navalny was finally killed.

Anyone who understands the case against Trump knows that this is just an authoritarian regime seeking to remove its major and most effective critic, being one who threatened their power and wealth. Additionally, they were/are all terrified that if Trump returned to power all their crimes, which are currently being (barely) papered over, would be up for prosecution. Biden and his family, the Clintons, the Obamas, Merrick Garland, Nancy Pelosi and a host of others are in real legal jeopardy if the Republicans ever get control of the legal system.
For example, Hilary was already found guilty of the exact same 'crime' that Trump was sorta/kinda charged with and slapped with a fine. Nothing will stop that being re-examined by a Republican prosecutor in light of this idiocy. And there's ample evidence to gaol Hunter Biden and probably Joe. Merrick Garland has already been accused of lying to Congress. And so on....

Already we see one Republican Congressman saying "Time for Red State (ie Republican) AGs and DAs to get busy."

The American Republic unravelling at the hands of a corrupt and incompetent cabal.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 31 May 2024 6:13:51 PM
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The murder of Tiberius Gracchus, to most historians, marked the beginning of the fall of the Roman Republic. It took a century between that murder and the final end of the Republic with the rise of Octavius Augustus.

Tiberius was murdered because he threatened the power and wealth of the elites. They murdered his brother 10 years later. But then the supporters of the Gracchi gained power and reeked their revenge on their opponents. Then there was a swing back and those who revenged upon got their own revenge. From Marius to Sulla to Crassus and the first triumvirate. Pompey, Caesar, the second triumvirs and finally Octavius. Massacre after massacre. Wealth striped from one group then from their opponents. Families wiped out or sent into exile. Romans were relieved when the mayhem came to an end after who knows how many deaths.

All the while, the legal system was debased and used to convict people of unproven crimes and impose unheard-of sentences. People weren't simply executed. The debasement of the legal system provided a veneer of legitimacy to the whole process. And once one debasement of the system was used by one side, it was joyfully used by the other. A downward spiral that never really stopped.

Rome survived, even prospered, but democracy and freedom didn't.

The US might survive what's coming, but freedom and democracy won't.

A dark day in world history. Given what's going on in the US and Britain, Australia might end up being the final frontier of western civilisation... if it can somehow survive its own corrupt and incompetent leadership
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 31 May 2024 6:34:55 PM
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"Anyone who understands the case against Trump knows that this is just an authoritarian regime seeking to remove its major and most effective critic, being one who threatened their power and wealth."

Yes its true, but Trump will be maneuvered by Lindsay Graham and other neocons to continue the Western foreign policy that will end up in war anyway, should he succeed in getting back into the Whitehouse.
Trumps already surrounding himself with morons and purported to be saying stupid things.

The nationalist protection policies will probably do more harm than good if Trump continues Biden's tariff policies against China.

Russia and China have a very carefully planned long term geo-economic policy.
The West cannot compete, they've been outmatched, and the world's majority supports these changes, because they benefit instead of being exploited, which is all the West ever did.

China and Russia are actually helping these countries where the West never did.
China offers economic support and infrastructure projects such as ports, hospitals, high speed rail, government buildings, Russia can help with security against warlords and terrorists.

Russia is even building a nuclear power plant in Burkina Faso.

Russia to build nuclear plant to meet Burkina Faso's energy needs
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-67098444

It's the West that's being gutted thanks to our own stupid leaders.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 31 May 2024 8:50:35 PM
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"When Putin's regime used a series of trumped up charges to arrest. convict and gaol Alexei Navalny, anyone with two brain cells to rub together who wasn't a Putin apologist, knew that this was just a authoritarian regime ridding itself of an effective and dangerous critic. No one who understands such things was surprised when Navalny was finally killed."

The charges weren't trumped up, they were legit and he was guilty;
- but it was politically motivated to go after him, arrest, charge and imprison him.
He was an agent working for the CIA to destabilise Russia.

Putin didn't kill him, no need to, he was rotting away just fine in his frozen Gulag.
He was not an effective and dangerous critic.
He was discredited as an agent of the West and a traitor to Russia with no possibility of any further political future.

The Wests attempts to create dissent, destabilise the country and oust Putin failed.
Navalny was a broken man who was going to spend his life in prison.

His death benefitted the West, was an attempt to try and foster dissent prior to the Russian presidential election and introduced his wife Yulia as the face of the movement going forward.

"Putin killed my husband."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 31 May 2024 8:55:00 PM
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