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ICC Seeks Arrest Warrants For Israel , Hamas Leaders.

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"People in Gaza face relentless bombardment, death,
and destruction on an unprecedented scale."

One doesn't have to be monumentally historically ignorant to write something like that....but it helps.

Dresden, Allepo, Leningrad, Mongol conquest of China, Dacia etc etc etc
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:14:16 AM
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History lies at the core of every conflict.

Distortion, manipulation sows disaster.

That Palestine was an empty desert-like land - without
people. Equating Zionism with Judaism, That - Anti-Zionism can only
be depicted as anti-Semitism. That Palestinians voluntarily
fled. that the 1967 war was forced on Israel - a "no
choice war." And much, much, more. That criticism of Israel
comes from Jew Haters.

None of this helps anyone.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 May 2024 11:44:03 AM
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"When Karim Khan won the 9-year term as a Prosecutor for the ICC he was the favoured candidate of both the United States and Israel for his current position."

Pure fabrication.

"History lies at the core of every conflict."
Huh? Inanity reigns supreme.

So we've gone from "Is this a way to force both sides of this conflict to come to the table for peace negotiations ?"

to...oh it might complicate their travel plans.

My point made.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 23 May 2024 12:05:55 PM
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Poor old “Vixen”, been nibbling at the 1080 again….
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 23 May 2024 1:37:12 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«Gallant, on October 9th, right at the beginning of the
war said that a "complete siege" was being imposed
and that "no electricity , no food, no fuel would be
allowed into the coastal enclave."»

At that early stage of the war it was believed that this will make the Gazan population rebel and overthrow Hamas, thus preventing much bloodshed. Also, that without electricity Hamas will not be able to ventilate its tunnels and will be forced to emerge to the surface.

But this tactic failed to work.
Israel did not realise how strong was the hold of Hamas over the Gazan people.
Also, how much diesel Hamas stored to operate their tunnel-ventilators.

That tactic was soon abandoned and sufficient food and water were allowed into Gaza, starting from 200 trucks per day (while 100 trucks would have been sufficient for Gazan sustenance) and many more now.
Hamas, however, confiscated that food, deliberately starving the Gazan people.

If Hamas ever cared for the Gazan people, all it needed to do was to release the Israeli hostages, then the hostilities and hunger would immediately end. They never till now even stopped launching rockets into Israel.

«If you make outrageous statements, there can be outrageous consequences.»

Correct, the consequences for Gallant are outrageous even as his statements were only words and not translated into actions.
Gallant made these statements in order to to appease Netanyahu, otherwise he would have been replaced as Defence-Minister by a much worse person. The Israeli Nazi party still considers him a traitor.

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Dear Dan,

«Seems nature, (God), had a reason: maybe you can guess the answer for us.»

This goes off topic, but since you ask, the reason is for us to learn that we are not separate from each other, so if we hurt another then we must automatically suffer as well.

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Dear Paul,

«he's not sure how big a party he should throw for his fellow war criminal that Zionist Netanyah.»

Netanyahu is not a Zionist, just a criminal.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 23 May 2024 2:22:30 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«While dozens of countries have recognized a
Palestinian State none of the major Western
powers have done so.»

I think they should, Israel too - nothing could embarrass the so-called "Palestinians" more because having a state of their own is the last thing they want, nor will they be able to overcome the loss of their privileged "victim" status.

Having a state, you know, brings with it responsibilities, not just privileges!

«Israel's bombardment is rendering Gaza uninhabitable.
People in Gaza face relentless bombardment, death,
and destruction on an unprecedented scale.»

True, but Hamas' operations render Israel too uninhabitable.
People in Israel also face relentless bombardment, death,
and destruction on an unprecedented scale.

«That Palestine was an empty desert-like land - without
people. Equating Zionism with Judaism, That - Anti-Zionism can only
be depicted as anti-Semitism. Anti-Zionism can only
be depicted as anti-Semitism. that the 1967 war was forced on Israel - a "no
choice war." And much, much, more.»

Zionism indeed is not Judaism, Zionism was in fact an attempt by certain Jews to escape the Jewish fate.

Other than that, you brought an interesting list of half-truths:

There is no such place as "Palestine", nevertheless, LARGE PARTS of the lands in Israel were either desert or otherwise uninhabitable due to swamps and malaria-carrying mosquitoes.

For SOME, Anti-Zionism is indeed derived by anti-Semitism.

In 1948, many "Palestinian" villages were ordered by Arab militias to leave their homes - "stay out of this war-zone, just give us 2 weeks to finish off the Jews, then you can return home and also have their loot".

The militias failed to finish off the Jews, hence the villagers were unable to return.

Most of those who chose to remain in their towns and villages, their descendants are now Israeli citizens. Over 20% of Israel's population and murdered alike by Hamas last October 7th!

The 1967 war was indeed forced on Israel - though not Israel's continued occupation once the Arab armies were routed in 6 days, at which time Israel should have withdrawn back to its borders.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 23 May 2024 3:06:16 PM
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