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Screams before Silence.
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Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 9 May 2024 4:57:20 PM
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Foxy,
No, Kapos were not guards. They were inmates who cooperated with the Nazis in order to stay alive. "Himmler told the Generals: “A Kapo gets special privileges. The minute we are not satisfied with him he stops being a Kapo and goes back to sleeping with others. He knows only too well that they will kill him on the first night”." https://sydneyjewishmuseum.com.au/news/kapos/ SS guards at concentration camps were there voluntarily. They were paid and did not face death if they refused to follow orders. Only a dyed in the wool Jew hater would equate a Kapo with an SS guard, much as a fool would equate Gaza with a concentration camp. From the same link: "In 1950, after the birth of the Jewish State, the Israeli Parliament passed the Nazi and Nazi Collaborator Punishment Law (NNCPL). It enshrined not only the charges of ‘war crimes’ and ‘crimes against humanity’ but also a new legal code: ‘crimes against the Jewish people’. Over a period of two decades, 40 trials were conducted in the district court of Tel Aviv and the Supreme Court in Jerusalem. Two thirds of the accused were convicted, sent to jail from ten days up to six and a half years. One death penalty was handed down, but was rapidly overturned. Most of the trial records have been placed under strict lock and key, sealed for a period of 70 years. In the wake of the highly controversial Kapo trials, especially against the backdrop of the Eichmann tribunal, the view on Kapos shifted. Initially seen only as evil collaborators, traitors and co-perpetrators, they are now also viewed as victims of Nazi terror." Posted by Fester, Thursday, 9 May 2024 6:09:11 PM
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Pell got off on a technicality.
That makes my eyes roll too. Convicted on the testimony of one person of an alleged event decades earlier. The prosecution only needed to establish the event might have happened. The onus on Pell's defence lawyers was to establish that the event did not happen beyond a reasonable doubt. Effectively, Pell faced justice on the basis of being guilty until proven innocent, which is why the High Court allowed Pell an appeal and quashed his conviction. I find it interesting that people who found the evidence against Pell so compelling will dismiss almost anything linking Hamas or UNRWA to atrocities against Israelis and Palestinian children. Posted by Fester, Thursday, 9 May 2024 6:37:49 PM
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I find it interesting that people who found the evidence against Pell so compelling will dismiss almost anything linking Hamas or UNRWA to atrocities against Israelis and Palestinian children.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 9 May 2024 6:37:49 PM I find it interesting that someone would side with a child molester over the victims of genocide. I find the murder of 35,000 innocent people pretty compelling evidence. Posted by Random, Thursday, 9 May 2024 8:02:31 PM
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"I find the murder of 35,000 innocent people pretty compelling evidence."
A hundred and fifty thousand civilians died in the allied invasion of Okinawa. That's what happens when people adopt genocidal and hateful ideologies and foist terror on their neighbours, e.g. Manchuria. Look at the wasteland the Japanese islands became for adopting that mindset, and realise that people have a choice when you look at beautiful and peaceful nation Japan is today. Teaching kids to hate and believe it their duty to commit genocide is the heart of the problem, and thanks to Albo and PenPen Australian taxpayers are funding the hatred and terror via UNRWA. Foxy, Here is a story based on the life of a kapo in Auschwitz. I don't think him much like an SS guard. Do you? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38359036-the-tattooist-of-auschwitz Posted by Fester, Friday, 10 May 2024 8:22:25 AM
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Australia joins 142 nations in backing Palestinian statehood in UN vote
http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-backs-un-resolution-supporting-palestinian-statehood-20240511-p5jcqt.html Israeli Ambassador is displeased, nice theatrics... "Declaring that the nations supporting the resolution had shredded the UN charter, Erdan theatrically inserted a miniature copy of the UN charter into a transparent paper shredder during his speech." "The resolution 'reaffirms the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, including the right to their independent State of Palestine'. It was supported by 143 nations with nine voting against and 25 abstaining. Australia’s yes vote contrasted with its AUKUS partners the United States and United Kingdom, which voted no and abstained respectively." Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 11 May 2024 6:24:31 AM
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Well we can all read and compare your quote with the actual text. Just asserting I'm wrong doesn't make it so. You, as you always do, tried to enhance your failed views with doctored quotes and then take offence at it being highlighted.
In the end, as the lawyer in my link explained or as you'd see if you read the actual decision from the High Court that I linked to earlier, Pell was exonerated because the High Court found that there was reasonable doubt. And reasonable doubt in our system means not guilty. I know that you wanted him punished for things he wasn't even charged with as your doctored quote tried to explain but that's not how a just world works.