"How stupid is this guy? at no time have Hamas or Fatah ever attempted non-violence."

They have no obligation whatsoever to submit to non-violence.
If they were to stage a peace protest along the border fence Israel would shoot them all.
They have every right to fight their oppressors in the goal of self determination, that was promised to them 100+ years ago.

I think Armchair that self determination means something different to
the Muslims than to the rest of us.
It has all got so boring that we go round and around every 10 years or so.
Not surprising really, their religion does not permit a change in the Plan.

An idiot was claiming that the "peaceful protesters" that were trying to scale the fence into Israel proper (as internationally recognised in 1950) and armed to the teeth had the right to kill Jews as they did on the 7th of Oct last year.

On Oct 7 they broke down the barriers and invaded Israel proper, murdered raped and decapitated women and children then ran back to Gaza to hide behind their women and children in schools, hospitals etc (which is itself a war crime.) expecting the world to shield them from retribution. However, the nature of the atrocities precluded most civilised countries from rescuing them.

Israel is busy delousing Gaza from Hamas and destroying the war infrastructure funded by UNWRA.

The "Palestinians" made their genocidal bed and must now lie in it.

Shadow Minister,

We should not blame an entire group for the actions
of extremists within that group. Surely you're
better than that. And, taking sides does not help.

Foxy, it is more than "just a group" it is a very widespread belief
that the Jews must be killed.
It was not just Hamas that entered Israel but some hundreds of those
who were not uniformed Hamas members. Just to join n the fun.
It seems from reports we are bringing into Australia some hundreds
of people from Gaza. How many are Hamas members or sympathisers ?
What could possibly go wrong ?

Hi Bezza,

Sweeping generalizations about any group does not
give you credibility. You don't allow for individual
differences and you should.

I also would hesitate in making statements about what
people's beliefs are. Suffice to say we get fundamentalists
and extremists in all religions.

As for the dangers involved as to who we bring into this country?
There's always dangers involved with any group. We never know
for sure what kind of people exist within each group. However,
our governments do have strict criterias that they apply and all
we can do is rely on them and our security forces.