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How about the selfish bastards who want people other themselves to be conscripted be forced to do volunteer work no matter what age or sex they are.
ttbn,
An even better idea would be that those who think the rest of us owe them a living go out & don't depend on those of us who worked & still work & paid taxes & still pay taxes..
I had to drive from Cairns to Canberra before I found a job. No dole for me & no compensation for when I got robbed several times.
A can guarantee that the crime rate would drop whilst the potential culprits are asleep in camps or dormitories. When they finish their service their new improved mentality will see them on a path they'd not otherwise get to walk.
Don't forget that many are not on the dole because they can't find work. They think they're entitled to get supported because the job they not smart enough for isn't given to them.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 15 February 2024 6:20:01 PM
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Dear Indyvidual,

You are not speaking about conscription - you seem to be speaking of a particular dole/welfare program for particular young people who would still have the free choice whether to accept it or to possibly starve.

This may warrant a whole new fresh discussion, or even an article, where you properly introduce your idea, explain it in more details and state clearly who would be subject to this program.

Just please find your proposal another name rather than calling it "National Service", because "National Service" is commonly synonymous with military conscription.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 15 February 2024 6:34:18 PM
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because "National Service" is commonly synonymous with military conscription.
Yuyutsu,
Yes, you're right & that's why I constantly make that point. Those against their little darlings being exposed to education outside the classroom make deliberate full use of that confusion. A National Service is to instil a sense of common sense & responsibility because the classroom education has been failing to do that for decades.
There is military service & there is national Service. We can not expect someone who has been indoctrinated by nonsense to develop common sense. It just doesn't work that way particularly when teenage parents on the dole, ignorant teachers & devoid of integrity media are the role models.
Schools are where the young are supposed to learn writing & reading etc. A NS is where the older teens learn real life skills like responsibility, consideration & social skills. Exposure to basic menial but vital work is invaluable & as far as importance goes, on par with higher education.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 15 February 2024 10:33:30 PM
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Dear Indyvidual,

You are going round and round, mainly speaking of motives rather than implementation details, and fail to answer a simple Yes/No question:

Would young adults, according to your plan, be forced into your proposed program even if they do not seek the dole or any other welfare support from the state?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 16 February 2024 5:12:38 AM
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- In any case, he does make a valid point...
"A can guarantee that the crime rate would drop whilst the potential culprits are asleep in camps or dormitories. When they finish their service their new improved mentality will see them on a path they'd not otherwise get to walk."
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 16 February 2024 6:58:07 AM
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Yuyutsu,
You're utterly & totally missing the point & you prove again & again why we need such a service.
It is the mentality you put on show that needs rectifying. Using the word "forced" is a totally wrong perception/accusation of what is meant as a character building education away from education !
Anyone with the mentality that doesn't have an aversion to responsibility for the common good & harmony would most definitely not use that word. They'd use the word contribution, as in offering & giving back to the society that has already provided for them. This is to ensure that future generations will turn out much less opportunistic & self-centred than the present ones !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 16 February 2024 9:07:54 AM
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