"Are you for real ? How old or rather how young are you ?"

That was in response to my asking Indyvidual for specifics about how this National Service would operate.

I take his answer as proof that he doesn't actually have any ideas about how his proposal would work. Its just an ignorant scream that he wants things to be different. Pretty much what I figured.

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Similarly we have Yuyutsu who bases his opinions on international affairs on "common knowledge". Struth. Yuyutsu thinks that whatever the media feds him is "common knowledge". Actually its common ignorance.

eg "Isn't it common knowledge that Taiwan stands no chance of successfully defending itself "

War simulations show that Taiwan has a reasonable chance of defeating a Chinese invasion. Which is why there hasn't been an invasion to date.

Why is it that whenever I dig into people's views on Trump, I find people who have no real knowledge of his agenda but just regurgitate anti-Trump media?

Here's a couple of pieces of information that the media won't give you on Trump.....

Trump is the only president in the last 40 years to leave office poorer than he started. People like Obama have gone from relative paupers to mega millionaires while in office but Trump lost money in order to deliver for his supporters. But still we have dills saying he's only in it for himself..."[then only for one particular American named 'Donald']?"

In recent days the IRS has released figures on income tax receipts in recent years. Remember how the Trump tax changes were supposed to favour the rich and hit the poor. Well, the 2021 receipts (the first year of the new tax system) showed that the top 1% paid the highest percentage amount of tax ever and the bottom 50% of taxpayers paid the lowest percentage taxes ever ie, despite what the media fed you, the Trump tax changes did what he said - favoured the workers who are his supporters and hit the rich who of course support the Democrats.

I bet that won't become "common knowledge".

Indy,

Something that does need looking at is the response to natural disasters fires, floods etc, and how best to deal with the "volunteer" system we have in place to handle these emergencies. The use of defence personnel in some situations is also a consideration. At present we tend to use military personnel in an afterwards "clean up" capacity, as they don't have the expertise to be involved earlier.

Paul1405,
Correct on that one hence my perpetual pushing for a NS to instil the kind of common sense & the mentality that enables people to think & act accordingly to be of use rather than a burden to the society one lives in. This particularly applies to those receiving generous salaries merely on grounds of having a 'Degree' !

I've got an idea. How about the selfish bastards who want people other themselves to be conscripted be forced to do volunteer work no matter what age or sex they are.

Volunteering is something you have to want to do, not something that can be forced upon a person. In the past month or so we've had 8 people I can think of who have volunteered at the charity my wife and I are involved with. 3 or 4 have quickly disappeared after 1 or 2 shifts, they realise its not the glamorous job they thought it was.

Hmm...

Lets say we built off of my idea for a better 'Work for the dole' system;
Where it's 'double dole for full time work helping the government save money'.

My original idea for this was 'the job you have when you don't have a job'
and that Capitalism needs a pool of 5% unemployed workers to stop wage growth.
- But why not turn that pool of 5% workers who want to work into an 'break-even' instead of a 'liability'?

Do you want to pay someone $400 a week plus the cost of services and get nothing back,
Or would you rather pay $800 week and get a full time worker?

The aim is to turn a 'liability' into a 'break-even'.

There's no reason that within this framework you could not have an optional military service program.
The fact of making it optional not compulsory gives the person who chooses to do it some prestige.
- You know, it's like having your own 'Order of Australia' medal as a younger person.
Maybe there could also be some additional rewards for completion.
It could even be displayed on your 'digital resume'.