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Posted by SPANKY, Sunday, 23 September 2007 5:37:07 PM
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Philo, thanks for the great answer, very clear. As I understand it Buddhism has the same regard for mankind as eternal spirit as you have expressed, without an explicit God; but with a more explicit awareness of self as spirit or soul.
Buddhists and others think of themselves as imperfect but alive souls, not as you say dead, and awaiting rebirth as souls. Curious too, the apparent need of a new,eternal body in heaven. I take your point on the difference between the spiritual and the material; this is a more fundamental requisite for religion than the Is there a god? question itself. Religion can exist without gods, but not without the idea of the spiritual. Posted by palimpsest, Sunday, 23 September 2007 7:40:51 PM
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SPANKY well said!
regards Posted by Belly, Monday, 24 September 2007 6:43:24 AM
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“MJBP.. Jesus more than any other condemns mistreatment of children by so called Christians...”
I know that Boazy. The belief that children should not be mistreated is a part of any Christian belief unless you are in the Jim Jones brand or something. C J Morgan, I guess I must have said something politically incorrect. No offence intended. It is interesting that the PC view rules out Buddhist violence when most martial arts were developed by Buddhists. Are the Tamil Tigers Buddhist? I had in mind an article I read yonks ago and haven’t had any reason to keep. I think Burma has the most of this type of problem these days. So I did a google search. I found something on the human rights abuses of the Democratic Kayin Buddhist Army. http://www.hri.ca/forthereCord1998/vol3/burmatr.htm See the Extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary execution, Special Rapporteur on: (E/CN.4/1998/68, paras. 14, 17, 39, 57, 63, 72; E/CN.4/1998/68/Add.1, paras. 283--288) section. There seems to be an issue in Thailand where the Buddhist army are engaging in executions at refugee camps. It doesn’t specifically refer to Christians in the summary but it might mitigate the PC Christian bad Buddhist perfect expectation. Here is an article on a Buddhist majority forcing Christians and Muslims to convert. I didn’t see anything specifically about killing but it is a very long article so I didn't read it all. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2002/13868.htm eg. “Forced Religious Conversion Since 1990 government authorities and security forces, with assistance from monks of the Hill Regions Buddhist Missions, have sought to coerce Chins, including children, to convert to Theravada Buddhism. According to the Islamic Republic News Agency, there are credible reports that hundreds of Christian tribal Nagas in the country have been converted forcibly to Buddhism by the country's military. The persons were lured with promises of government jobs to convert to Buddhism, while those who resisted were abused and kept as bonded labor by the military.” Do you want me to keep looking? Posted by mjpb, Monday, 24 September 2007 8:14:13 AM
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I've just deleted a number of posts if you wonder why the thread just above appears a little disjointed. We have a few "sock puppets" on the site who object to having the rules enforced against them. If you see anything that looks suspicious, please click on the "Report Comment" button and let me know. I'm suspending anyone who tries to avoid the limit on posts by using multiple identities indefinitely, and without explanation - they know what they are doing.
Posted by GrahamY, Monday, 24 September 2007 8:46:06 AM
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mjpb it is true that many different religions try to enforce their views on other ones.
It is also true that some non religious people try to stamp out any religion. My views about Christians covering up crimes against children is based on evidence. Some have done just that, believing a man of God would not do that, or even thinking it is Gods will such men should be forgiven. I have no doubt at all other religions do the very same thing, quite wrong and against the teaching of that God surely? Posted by Belly, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:13:31 AM
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Ginx..get off that high horse, you are starting to live up to your thread name.
R. Mugabe..I hope you are not your namesake..if you are..err..g'bye!
CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC OF DISCUSSION!