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Is there a God?

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David,
You wrote "At resurrection, we receive a new body not subject to decay. Spirit and new Body re-united. Happy happy happy :)....4eva"
I'd say we'll all know one day. How do You know bearing in mind you haven't seen the other side and bearing in mind as you answer that this poster has 'seen the light' and come out of anything cultic.

I am glad you feel this for your own peace but it isn't for certain.
How does anyone really know about after death. We ain't been dead ;)
Words men put in the book, The Bible, is one belief system only. What you are saying sounds all too familiar teaching from my 'old Christian days', but now I think no one has been found in this state of non decaying forever. There is surely a longggg wait for some people when you look at the expanse of time that has been.

It is comparable to 'near death experiences', one has to have been dead and come alive to tell the tale. There are too many 'stories' and not enough hard evidence here either. I look for evidenced patterns; there are a lot of attention seekers out there as well. I want to reitterate that all this is matters of 'faith and a belief system indoctrinated from someone and somewhere' that has made up an individuals' mind.

Hence from my other postings my previously used word, 'cult'. The following are all cults by definition:
religions/belief or faith/astrology/cards/idol worship, and so on are just 'distractions' to feel better, to feel a purpose and hope. Has gone on for thousands for years; all for there own.
Posted by Cakers, Monday, 24 September 2007 1:04:36 PM
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Yes, there is a God, at least he thinks he is one and gives himself constant permission to be one. He knows who he is.
Posted by Frankieboy, Monday, 24 September 2007 1:12:28 PM
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Frankie boy I doubt you meant that? do you truly want me to believe the post?
I do not see the person you aim your thoughts at.
And in truth as one who does not believe I do not feel threatened by those who do.
Maybe my view man can stand on his own is not for every one yet.
It has for the most part been a good honest debate, well done every one.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 24 September 2007 3:13:36 PM
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Belly,

“mjpb it is true that many different religions try to enforce their views on other ones.

It is also true that some non religious people try to stamp out any religion.”

Yes I call the latter group atheist fundamentalists. Admittedly I didn’t invent the term.

“My views about Christians covering up crimes against children is based on evidence.

Some have done just that, believing a man of God would not do that, or even thinking it is Gods will such men should be forgiven. I have no doubt at all other religions do the very same thing, quite wrong and against the teaching of that God surely?”

I’d certainly hope that it was against the teaching of any God. The Christian God would condemn that. I thought you said media covering up the crimes? If it is a case of Christians…then according to media JWs (who call themselves Christians) have it as virtually official policy. Obviously there were Bishops in the Catholic Church who did the same for those cases between the 60s and 80s. Those denominations are centralised so it is easier to catch them out. Many local Churches are very independent from others in their denomination so a cover up within the Church would be invisible unless someone inside it owned up. Hopefully it isn’t happened but it could be happening every day of the week effectively invisibly. Chances are though to some extent it would happen somewhere in Christian and other religions.

“It has for the most part been a good honest debate, well done every one.”

Boazy who believes in the Christian God (Yahweh/Jesus etc.) made a similar comment and I made a similar comment privately. It is definitely a refreshing change for a discussion about God.
Posted by mjpb, Monday, 24 September 2007 4:11:23 PM
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Belly,
About a week ago, someone knocked on my door and presented me with a pamphlet on JW.
As much as I kept telling this person that I was not interested and the fact of my Father-in-law being a preacher, she was adamant in forcing her religion on me and doing the same with my neighbours after I had to almost introduce her to my Alsation-cross-Pitbull to escort her off the property! (joking)
In any event, this forceful method of conversion, really should have some law against it.
Posted by SPANKY, Monday, 24 September 2007 4:48:16 PM
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Yes, it's called prvate propery followed by please leave.
They have tried every trick in the book to get to me including the sweet little old lady knocking on the door.
I have also suggested they give me their address so I can come around to their house and shove my religion down their necks.
Both approaches work well.
Posted by Frankieboy, Monday, 24 September 2007 4:53:57 PM
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