Belly, how do you know that all gods are a myth? Boaz' God really exists for him. We all anthropomorphise(?) our dogs don't we? Mayans lived and died for their Gods. They didn't think for one second that they were deluded. Ill warrant that their gods gave them order and understanding of the world they lived in.

Religion can be different things to different people, an ethical guidebook, a power trip, a serious of ordained observances, a spiritual thing etc.; but if you don't ever conceptualise a god or the soul first then you can never find them.

We do create our gods, but that doesn't invalidate the possibility of a Supreme, creating being. And it does not make believers wrong either.

Philo, if we accept that the universe is a cosmological unity etc, who is to say that it was not designed by a committee? a sisterhood? or brotherhood of naughty gods?

The dogmatic view of the one-god religions is far too precious.

Where is StevenLMeyer?

If you value your God above all others why?
why are the other half or more of mankind wrong?
Islam has many more followers than the Christian God are numbers the measure?
Would heaven have enough room? would our parents find time for theirs in heaven?
Would we want to spend time with our very different great grand parents?
Why did God not know Australia?
Man is one one day if he still needs him the God he invents for us all will be one.

Belly ,
Hey , Good stuff, let's get our minds on the important - what really counts , and away from the Election .

Let's think about the Future !

PS . Fifty Seven years without winning a Grand Final and all those people in town that go to church .

We All had better have a serious yarn to the Boss.

Cheers ,Jim .

EasyTimes,
You assume things by dreaming will come true. This quote "Once death is taken out of the equation religion will quickly loose its appeal."

Please tell me how the universe will loose its organic nature of decay and become a stable state. Humans are made of the substance of the earth that requires food and water to maintain life. Tell me how the removal of this might occurr?

The reality of Christianity is that the spiritual is eternal, and never changes or ceases. You are more than organic chemistry, that changes and decays. You are character, attitudes, motives, relationships etc that is the real you, and your time in history forms the real you that evaluates who you are. Your chemistry will disapear, your spirit is set in eternal history. God is the Spirit set in eternity who is pure, moral, admirable and holy. He ought to be incarnate in your life if you wish to perceive him.

Palimpest,

“We do create our gods, but that doesn't invalidate the possibility of a Supreme, creating being. And it does not make believers wrong either.”

Of course not. To know that they are wrong requires faith.

“Mayans lived and died for their Gods.”

Not all Mayans died for their gods. Aztecs didn’t have to die for their gods. They appeared to be wiping out the entire South American population for their god but didn’t have to die themselves. They lived in a thriving metropolis with hunters continually capturing people from other tribes. They believed that the sun would go out if they didn’t offer continual sacrifices. Ironically the hunters became the hunted. Greedy explorer Cortez massacred them to get their gold and put an end to their routine. Given the small populations in those days and their need to continually acquire South Americans, if Cortez hadn’t arrived they might have run out of other people to sacrifice. They then might have used their own and thus died for their gods but that is hypothetical.

Belly,

“Islam has many more followers than the Christian God are numbers the measure?”

I read something a few years ago about how Islam was growing and expected to outnumber Catholicism in the near future. So it has overtaken has it? What are the current numbers?

“Our science gave us planes and cars power to homes we learned to build every thing we have man and his sciences gave us.”

And of course Christianity gave us science and Jesus gave us Christianity. Everything good always points back to God.

FG,

Thanks for all that.