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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:28:13 PM
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"There are 40 million Palestinian refugees that were pushed out of their ancestral land by the Zionist entity."
Which is pretty amazing given that there were less than 2 million people in Palestine in 1945 of which a third were Jews and just over 1 million Mohamadian. 1 million people v. 40 million people. Yeah AC can totally back up all his claims - using Twitter. Sheesh" You're a nitpicking douche that can't even read between the lines or follow the link at twitter to figure out what is meant by the statement. Here's the link to the tweet http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729927855604429234 Here's the article from the tweet. http://www.all4palestine.com/page.aspx?page_key=number_of_diaspora_palestinians&keywords=Number+of+diaspora+palestinians&lang=en I'm not even going to read the article because I can guess what it says. That's the number of Palestinians that exist worldwide, that should otherwise BE LIVING IN PALESTINE. It's not necessarily saying 40 million left you tosser. Use your brain in future, if you have one. You really are a whiny nitpicking child mhaze. Sorry, but that's what I think. ... And I thought progressives were bad. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:44:36 PM
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"that should otherwise BE LIVING IN PALESTINE.
It's not necessarily saying 40 million left you tosser." Oh so when you say 40 million "were pushed out of their ancestral land" you really meant that 40 million WEREN'T pushed out their ancestral land. Ok. Got it. I started a figurative list of the things you fell for that turned out to be rubbish. And then I have a figurative list of the things you'd claimed I said that I never said. Now perhaps I'll need to start a list of the things you say that you know are false but just hope will sail through unchallenged. But saying 40 million sounds too good to bother with the actual facts, eh AC? Just trying to teach you how to separate the truth from the twitter rubbish. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 30 November 2023 1:10:52 PM
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People who claim that Israel practices apartheid show they understand neither what really apartheid in South Africa was like nor situation with Israeli Palestinians.
But a lack of understanding doesn't stop them making the unresearched and unsustainable claims because.....antisemitism. http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Fire-Investigating-Accusations-Apartheid-ebook/dp/B00LWXKKJA/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Quick folks, run off to Mr Google and see what dirt you can fashion against Pogrund. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 30 November 2023 1:22:02 PM
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Palestinians have faced oppression every day for decades.
This is part and parcel of historical and archival records. And the daily experiences of Palestinians. Of course we're going to get deniers. Just as we've seen with South Africa, and in other areas where discrimination, dispossession, repression of dissent, killings and injuries, all are part of a system which is designed to privilege one group over another. In this case Israelis at the expense of Palestinians. This is apartheid. And it's something that has been recognized by Amnesty International's new investigations which show that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians accross all areas under its control: In Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited by international law. Most people understand that laws, policies, and practices which are intended to maintain a cruel system of control over Palestinians, that has left them fragmented geographically and politically, frequently impoverished and in a constant state of fear and insecurity - that such a system should not be defended or excused. Most rational people don't defend this system. Unfortunately, there are those who do. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 30 November 2023 2:05:25 PM
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"Just as we've seen with South Africa, and in other areas where discrimination, dispossession, repression of dissent, killings
and injuries, all are part of a system which is designed to privilege one group over another. In this case Israelis at the expense of Palestinians. This is apartheid." Well actually that's not apartheid. But it does describe pretty much every left wing totalitarian regime in history. As I said, if you think Israel is an apartheid society then you don't understand apartheid societies. Check the Wikipedia page on apartheid for a reasonable scanning of the facts. Just one example. Palestinians can and do vote in elections for the Knesset. 20% or so of the Israeli parliament is Palestinian. Blacks in SA had no such privileges. Foxy, I know you like to subsume your thinking to 'experts' but going with Amnesty International is fraught. Amnesty itself has been called more than once on its antisemitism. "Most rational people don't defend this system." Pointing out its not apartheid isn't the same as defending it. Deciding you don't like the system and that you'll attach whatever disparaging word you can come up with, irrespective of the appropriateness of that word, is childish Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 30 November 2023 3:54:45 PM
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His granddaughter screamed as she was crushed under the rubble of Israeli bombs.
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729935535853203872
Israelis teach their children to hate and mock the dying in Gaza.
(You know why I post this? To break the narrative that only Palestinians teach their kids to hate)
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729948609112862930
Why do Israelis hate it when detainees wave at Hamas? Would they have rather they have been tortured like they do to Palestinians?
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729671800949281151
The decomposing bodies of premature babies and infants have been discovered during the ceasefire after the power to the incubators ran out and doctors were forced to evacuate the hospitals by the IDF, sometimes at gun point.
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729638021320806669
Zionists try to claim the accusation of Israel torturing child hostages is Hamas propaganda. When it was reported by:
- The United Nations
- Amnesty international
- World organisation against torture
- Even Israeli NGOs
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl
Israel released Palestinian child hostage in the prisoner exchanged with half his skull missing. Compare that with how the Israeli detainees went home.
They took 570 children hostage before Oct 7.
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729359394591453623
When the IDF isn’t bombing Palestinian houses they are demolishing them
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729447403617694107
Israel then "We are colonizers"
Israel now "We're indigenous to the land"
http://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1729929784334151953
Breaking Israeli terrorists shoot dead 9 year old boy in the West Bank
Move along lapdogs, nothing to see here...