Dear Foxy,

While you addressed Australia's official anthem, ceremoniously presenting Australia for naive external consumption,
SteeleRedux helped me to get an insight into Australia's true spirit,
through its unofficial, yet better known, anthem,
that supports underdog nomads who steal and kill other people's sheep,
while opposing the arrogant bully rich farmers who dare to attempt to protect themselves and their property.

I think there was an escape tunnel under that Billabong, full of rockets for the swagmen to shoot back at the farm...

I wonder what countries where Ms. Wong's personal lifestyle is frowned upon, even illegal, think about having to accommodate her as Australia's foreign minister: the Muslim countries she appears to defend against Israel, for example.

As Josephus says about Hamas: they are "worse than Hitler". The Nazis sought to cover up their crimes against the Jews, and in many cases they were ashamed of their actions.

Hamas, on the other hand, is proud of their brutalisation of Jews, and flaunts it at every opportunity. Hamas terrorists are arguably the worst of human animals ever.

Arabs and Leftists, Australian in name only, are not supporting any "underdogs": they are supporting terrorists, illegally, but safely in cowardly Australia.

There is no "genocide" in the Middle East. Not by Israel, anyway, as they are doing their level best not to kill Arabs non-combatants. It can be said that Hamas would like to commit genocide against Israelis, and they would do if Israel listened to the anti-Semites urging them to cease fire.

Dear Yuyutsu,

Give it over mate.

When Jews fleeing war and persecution were looking to create a homeland, Australia, primarily through the actions of Doc Evatt, became pivotal in realising it.

"Israel’s creation depended heavily on the actions of H.V. Evatt, the enigmatic Australian statesman who served as president of the UN General Assembly at the time of Israel’s admission to the United Nations. ... Evatt then guided the 1947 Palestine partition plan through the UN; in so doing, he transformed the history of the modern Middle East."

This was despite the terrorist activities of various Jewish groups including bombings, killings and kidnappings.

The was because he viewed those actions in the light of what had happened to the Jewish people.

Many Australians and the current Australian government reflect those values and are therefore supportive of the Palestinian cause. Therefore I would thank you to be a little less derisive in your tone, acknowledging of course the emotions you would justifiably be feeling.

Dear SteeleRedux,

«Israel’s creation depended heavily on the actions of H.V. Evatt, the enigmatic Australian statesman who served as president of the UN General Assembly at the time of Israel’s admission to the United Nations.»

Israel would have been created with or without the united-nations.
And I think it could probably have done better without them.

«The was because he viewed those actions in the light of what had happened to the Jewish people.»

The Jewish people indeed needed some solution, but artificially matching their post-holocaust plight with the Israeli Zionist plight, was probably not the best idea for either:

It forced Israel to compromise and become a Jewish state, which is not quite the Hebrew state which its founders intended it to be. And it made the Jews who wished to retain their respective cultures feel like homeless second-class Jews.

While Israel received some Jewish support over the years, it also suffers through its association with the Jews from the general sense of anti-Semitism which its founders wanted so much to escape.

Was this matching between Israel and the Jews helpful, is the "Jewishness" of Israel on balance more of an asset or more of a liability to Israel? That is really hard to tell.

«Many Australians and the current Australian government reflect those values and are therefore supportive of the Palestinian cause.»

Assuming such a cause exists - what is it exactly then?
Other than expressing anger, what do they actually want?

Dear Yuyutsu,

Just for the record the quote you seem to be arguing against came from the Australia/Israel Jewish Affairs Council.

http://aijac.org.au/australia-israel-review/doc-evatt-and-the-partition-plan/

What is wanted? What has always been wanted, a 2 state solution likely based on the 67 borders. And the removal of Israeli settlers in militarily occupied Palestinian territories.

Arabs and Leftists, Australian in name only, are not supporting any "underdogs": they are supporting terrorists, illegally, but safely in cowardly Australia.

Oh ttbn...

What do you know about the Jews and their religion?
http://www.wikinoah.org/en/index.php/Christianity_and_Noahide_Law

"Another consideration would be that even if Christians are considered at least partially observant Noahides, are they Chasidei Umos HaOlam (Righteous gentiles who observe Noahide law) or Chochmei Umos HaOlam? The former are considered to have a share in the world to come because they recognize Noahide Law as being revealed through mosaic (rabbinic) tradition, the latter are not considered to have a share in the world to come because they follow Noahide Law based on intellectual expediency."

Get this through your head.
Unless you observe Jewish Noahide law, then you and your kind are NOT considered to have a share in the world to come, the Messianic Age which Jews not only seek, but have set about achieving.

The Jewish religion is just as bad an ideology as anything.
- I don't want to live under ANY religious theocracy.

Not Islamic Law, Not Noahide Law, and not a place ruled by Christians either.
I support ethics.

I'm an Australian, I live a cold beer every now and again, I live pretty girls in bikinis, and I love BACON.

"There is no 'genocide' in the Middle East."
- I bet you'd have a different opinion if you were in Gaza and missiles were raining down on you and your families heads and you were surrounded by death.