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ALP Might Be Our Most Anti-Israel Government Yet

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Is Israel making the same mistake that it has always made - going soft under international pressure?

No ceasefire, but they have agreed to daily 4 hour breaks to allow civilians to escape. Who are these civilians? Hamas isn't uniformed; they look just like any other Arab civilians in Gaza.

And, what about reports that Hamas is deliberately stopping actual civilians from escaping so that they can continue to be used as human shields, and Hamas can continue going on about the number of them killed by Israel.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 10 November 2023 11:23:33 AM
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"From a true Palestinian.
http://www.facebook.com/watch?v=825324159343729"

I didn't know Palestinians wear the Yamaka.
I thought that was a Jewish thing.

If Israel doesn't like the criticism, then it should counter all the criticisms its detractors have by putting to rest peoples concerns,
Don't just blame everyone else for being 'Anti-Semitic' or 'Jew Haters' if you don't want to deal with the criticism.

Expect more of the criticism.
- Because with every innocent person killed there will undoubtedly be more.
Every bit of harm you do, there will be a response - a price to pay.

If you always do as you've always done,
- Then you'll always get what you always got.

Until then, expect criticism like 'supporter of genocide of children' and live with it, since that's team you're on Josephus, and that's what your team you defend is doing.

Anytime I hear the word 'anti-semitic' or 'Jew hater';
- You can expect 'child murderer' to be a part of the response.

Jesus sure as hell wouldn't support killing all these kids.
He'd probably be helping out in a Palestinian hospital, the downtrodden people tending to the wounded, he wouldn't be flying an F-35 or being present in an Israeli command centre.

If you are religious and you support Israel, you should ask yourself if you are supporting the devil.
You can have your beliefs, but I wont support harming innocent kids.
Most of the people on the planet will not support this either, so don't blame 'Jew hate' when Israel is doing what it's doing and we can all see it, despite their attempts to shut off the internet and hide it from the worlds view.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 10 November 2023 12:13:36 PM
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"ALP Might Be Our Most Anti-Israel Government Yet"

Well they can't be that bad, their ABC is still censoring the news for Israels benefit.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-10/israel-gaza-war-latest-updates-heavy-fighting-gaza-city/103088116

New videos of two Israeli hostages described as 'psychological warfare'

"The armed wing of the Palestinian group Islamic Jihad in Gaza released a video on Thursday showing an elderly woman and a young boy who were among about 240 hostages seized by militant gunmen who attacked Israel on October 7...

The ABC cannot confirm what conditions these videos were filmed under and has chosen not to share them."

Why is it I must go elsewhere to get the news?
Why is it that news organisations don't want to inform their readers and viewers?

What about other sources?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67373461
No, because it's a news cartel and they all follow a script.

How is it even a story, if they won't share what the hostages said?
I can show you what they said right here, this is the part the news networks didn't want you to see, thanks to Elon Musk.
http://twitter.com/PakistaniIndex/status/1722676819235672181

How can anyone trust the corporate media, when they homogenise the news specifically to manipulate the reader or viewer?

They don't want people being informed.
They just want to tell you 'Here's what you need to know' in order that you come to the opinion they want.

Interesting disclosure in the first article though...

"Gaza-based Palestinian militants seized the hostages during an assault on southern Israeli communities that killed some 1,400 Israelis and foreigners, the Israeli military has said.
The vast majority are believed to be in the hands of Hamas, but Islamic Jihad, a smaller militant group in Gaza that is allied to the territory's ruling movement, has said previously it held at least 30 captives."

- So you see, it wasn't all Hamas on Oct 7.
Others took their cue from the fence down as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 10 November 2023 12:45:56 PM
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When two groups are in conflict, the best way forward is to negotiate peacefully?
But human beings don't find doing that to be satisfying?
Instead, they want to engage in conflict: teach those *&$#+ a lesson.
It appears humans are programmed to be 'war-like'?
Almost any excuse for a 'war'?
Hence all the 'wars' going on on this planet?

None of us are in a war zone, experiencing the reality of conflict.
So we can only base our thoughts on what we are told.
(we assume the news we hear is reasonably accurate)
Allowing for this, I still think the Israeli response is 'over-kill'.
Better not to be so intractable?
Better to examine ones own attitude, and perhaps modify it?
Realise that other humans have a life to lead too.
Other humans have needs which must be met.
Wholesale destruction is NOT preferable to peaceful progress and improvement?

The time is fast coming when we will ALL need to work together to survive.
Climate change will not be denied.
The reality of surviving on this planet will, all too soon, be front and centre.
We really need to grow-up, and use reason in all our deliberations?
The time for dictators and aggressive governments to vanish is fast approaching?
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 10 November 2023 12:49:33 PM
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Facts and lies

http://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=search&v=345867797960823&external_log_id=c246fabc-ca9e-4cf8-97af-0bb9ca3bb9d8&q=Palistinian
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 10 November 2023 3:56:51 PM
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Penny Wong has called for a ceasefire.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/penny-wongs-gaza-ceasefire-call-condemned/video/42e611671a44e09eaaa69c08668a64d7

"Leading Australian Jewish organisations have condemned Foreign Minister Penny Wong’s calls for a ceasefire in the Middle East. Penny Wong said Israel – as a democracy – needed to be held to a higher standard than Hamas, and called on Israel to cease the attacking of hospitals in Gaza. The Zionist Federation of Australia, and Executive Council of Australian Jewry, both criticised Senator Wong for spreading ‘false and harmful’ narratives about the war. Senator Wong stressed Australia was pushing for Israel to think twice before continuing its operation in Gaza. Peter Dutton also criticised the Foreign Minister's statement, saying she has shown 'scant regard' for the Jewish community."

The more it goes on the more Jews will be at risk of being attacked.
If Jews call Australia home, then Penny Wong is taking a stand that protects them from an escalation of hostilities against them.

- These Australian Jewish organisations obviously care more about Israel than potential conflict that may arise on our streets and in our own country.

Israel says this will be a long war potentially lasting up to a year.
The world will turn completely against Israel long before then.
Western countries now have far too many Muslims to ignore.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 13 November 2023 9:23:31 AM
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