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ALP Might Be Our Most Anti-Israel Government Yet
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Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:31:36 AM
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"The point is, nobody now expects the imaginative two state situation to ever eventuate, after 75 years of conflict and vows to wipe out the Jews. It's dead."
I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. Funny how Anthony Blinken was discussing this on Oct 8. - He certainly wasn't discussing it on Oct 6. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken on a two-state solution in Israel-Hamas war http://youtu.be/-4ds4ddoGO0 http://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-with-margaret-brennan-of-cbss-face-the-nation-2/ "...We’ve said from day one that even as we’re working toward normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia, that can’t be a substitute for resolving the differences between Israelis and Palestinians. We think the best way to resolve it — remains a two-state solution, and one that ensures that Palestinians and Israelis alike know equal measures of democracy, of opportunity, of dignity in their lives. That’s why we’ve been very focused on that track as well." I'm not sure whether he's truly sincere or not. Probably the same as the US saying it supports the 'One China' policy. Given the fact that firstly he's a Jew and a neoconservative, Jews run the Fed, a significant part of the media and the largest funds manager with 8.5 trillion in assets under management, and the entire US congress is controlled by the Israel lobby. US President Joe Biden: “If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.” http://youtu.be/2HZs-v0PR44 The US needs the Arabs on side, it's the whole reason Israel exists You need to go all the way back to the 1907 Imperial Conference. - And the so called 'Campbell-Bannerman Document' Now, this is a controversial document, in the same class as 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'. No evidence for it has proven to exist, but things happened exactly as was speculated. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 1:33:18 PM
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This is what the leading researcher had to say about it. http://eng.alzaytouna.net/2017/09/28/political-analysis-campbell-bannerman-document-real-fake/ >>The “alleged” document states—according to the first part of the Malaf Watha’iq Felastin (Palestine Documents Dossier) published by the Ministry of Culture and National Guidance in Egypt in 1969 (under Gamal Abdel Nasser), p.121—that a secret “colonial conference” was held in London in 1905–1907, at the initiative of the British Conservative Party. It was attended by prominent historians, sociologists, geographers, agricultural scientists, petroleum experts, and economists. The supposed conference allegedly made a series of recommendations in 1907 to then British Prime Minister Henry Campbell-Bannerman, emphasizing the following: “Establishing a strong alien human barrier in the land bridge linking Europe to the old world, and both to the Mediterranean, to form—in the region near the Suez Canal—a force hostile to the peoples of the region and friendly to European countries and their interests, is the practical and immediate implementation of the proposed methods and approaches.” According to the alleged document, this means that “Western experts” see the establishment of an alien entity, namely the subsequent Israel, in the Eastern Mediterranean (especially in Palestine) a way to create a forward base to protect Western interests, weaken the region, and prevent its reunification. Several researchers argued that whether or not the document is fake, this is what has happened in reality.<< ---- You know, I remember that Napoleon lost at the Battle of Waterloo and Rothschild got the information first, started selling which caused a massive sell off and bought everything back at pennys on the pound. Jews probably own the UK, the City of London is a corporation full of bankers. Then the US congress is controlled by the Israel Lobby. Anyone who doesn't support Israel gets 'primaried'. Why do all democracies come down to support for Israel on the Conservative side, and support for Palestine on the Progressives side? 'Controlled Opposition'? How Progressive Democrats Were Railroaded in the Primaries by AIPAC and Allied Groups http://theintercept.com/2023/02/26/deconstructed-podcast-progressive-democrats-aipac/ The Squad Is Getting Primaried for Standing Against the War http://theintercept.com/2023/11/03/deconstructed-israel-aipac-squad-primary/ WARNING - EXTREME SWEARING (Don't blame me if you click it) http://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1724417919914758192 Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 1:50:31 PM
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Fellas, at the end of the day its 100% someones son, someones daughter, someones child, mother father, sister, brother, or grandparent, someone loved by others, who now grieve for their loss, be it an Israeli or Palestinian. The fact we callously put a number on it, and argue about it, does truly disturb me. All war is futile, this war is futile. Lets hope for a ceasefire and a peaceful resolution to a worthless conflict, hurting so many innocent people on both sides.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 1:59:13 PM
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Dear Critic,
«Jews probably own the UK, the City of London is a corporation full of bankers.» Whether true or otherwise, many view the Jews this way - and this is just why certain Jews woke up one morning in the 19th century and said: "F*?k it, we no longer want to be Jews - this stifling anti-Semitism without and the nagging Rabbis within, we don't accept that fate, we are young and free, we don't want to be bankers, we want to touch the earth, we want to be farmers, we want to be builders, we shall go back to our old land where we shall live together and build a beautiful new modern state together with our old brothers that never left - who cares what religion they now have". These were the Zionists! Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 2:09:13 PM
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We are all different, and birds of a feather will always flock together?
So we have a multitude of different groupings in our society. When any group embraces a set of 'principles' which sets them clearly apart, and which creates a distinct gap between them and the rest of society, conflict is almost inevitable. It is interesting that such a grouping's 'principles' are rarely truthful. They are in fact fiction: a story, often written script, which they follow in daily life. They 'live' it wholeheartedly, and use it as an excuse to avoid compliance with general law. They say they cannot do 'such and such', it is against their religion or principles. The truth is they are trying to make their own rules. And those rules often have little connection with reality. They want to feel special and different? They want to belong to a strong band of people which can stand alone, because they see that as protection for themselves? And with such blatantly false 'principles', one wonders how they are permitted to, or manage to, keep going. One also wonders: 'where is their ability to observe, and reach reasoned conclusions.' They appear to have blinkers on, which results in a severely limited field of view for them. Or perhaps they just don't care, provided they have a sense of safety? Whatever the 'principles' they 'embrace', they must be truthful ones, and able to stand up to scrutiny. Which is rarely the case. So whenever you see conflict, you will almost certainly see false principles at work. You don't need to look very hard. Posted by Ipso Fatso, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 2:18:45 PM
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the Australian government's support for a two state
solution between Israel and Palestine stating it
would be "the basis for long term lasting peace between
the Israeli and Palestinian peoples."
The six former PMs warned against letting the Israel-
Gaza conflict divide Australians. They issued a strong
statement declaring support for both the Jewish and
Palestinian communities.
The former Prime Ministers were_ John Howard, Kevin Rudd,
Julia Gillard, Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull, and
Scott Morrison.
The instigator of this endorsement was Josh Frydenberg
who contacted the Prime Ministers - and Penny Wong was
also consulted.
A great effort all round.