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ALP Might Be Our Most Anti-Israel Government Yet

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Hi Josephus,
"I watched ABC midday news, and they were talking about if Israel enters Gaza's al-Shifa hospital and finds there are no tunnel access to the hospital, the entire world will turn against Israel."

- Yes I heard that too.
What I found curious were reports of mass graves being dug.
I couldn't help wondering why dig mass graves if there are snipers and gunfire surrounding you, when the bodies could be buried within or moved through the (alleged) tunnels to a different location.
A heard it reported a day or so back (from people at the hospital) that Israeli snipers were shooting health workers in the hospital, but I don't know how true it is.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 5:40:14 PM
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Hi AC,

"A total of 102 aid workers with the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) were killed and 27 others wounded in Gaza since Israel's war with Hamas began more than a month ago, the agency said.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:06:23 PM
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1,400 Israelis were murdered by Hamas and Gazan Arabs.

Has this barbarism not been perpetrated, nobody in Gaza would have been killed, and they would have been perfectly safe today.

I am sick and tired of left lunatics and anti-Semites blubbering about what is happening in Gaza when it is entirely the fault of Hamas and the majority of Arabs who still support them.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:32:51 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«The hatch Israel claimed was a Hamas tunnel was only a water reservoir for the hospital.»

We shall wait and see...
If I were in place of Israel, I would have also claimed that I found nothing, that it was only a water reservoir - why lose the surprise element by letting Hamas know that the entrance to their underground complex was exposed?

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Dear Critic,

«Interesting, never had it spelled out for me like that before.»

Sadly, people today no longer remember how Zionism started and instead mistake that late-comer American-style Messianic madness to be "Zionism".

This must have been the combined success of the propaganda campaigns of both Netanyahu and Hamas.

«I think I've shared with you and others on the forum that I prefer 'ethics' over religion.»

Well if such primitive tribalism is mistakenly passed for religion then I share this sentiment. However, I don't consider Judaism, Christianity or Islam to automatically qualify as religions, unless people use them in that manner.

On the topic of immigration, since you mentioned it, please excuse me: I have my views, but not the time at the moment to divert to that whole new big topic.

«I support peace over conflict.»

Up to a point, yes, when a conflict is only about land and material goods.

But when a conflict is between good and uncompromising evil, one should still maintain inner peace, but at the same time do their duty and kill the perpetrators of evil.

This is the scene of the Bhagavad-Gita and in it Lord Krishna provides the perspective that one cannot kill the enemy anyway, only their temporal bodies, not the eternal indweller within these bodies.

«If I have ever offended you or any other Jewish reader then this was never my intention.»

You could not offended me - I am a Hindu.
People who identify as Jewish might have felt offended, but secular Israelis today tend to identify as Israelis, rather than as Jews.
Seeing the behaviour of extremist Messianic Jews, I think many of them Jewish-born have become anti-Semite too...
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 16 November 2023 1:07:40 AM
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In the past two decades over 2,100 Palestinian children have been killed by Israeli military action, and 139 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinian militants in the same period. To claim; "Has this barbarism not been perpetrated, nobody in Gaza would have been killed, and they would have been perfectly safe today." is untrue. Oct 7th was a continuum of a bloody war, not its beginning.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 16 November 2023 5:55:22 AM
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It is not "untrue". Honest and realistic people know that there was a ceasefire until the Hamas started another war against Israel.

There is no stopping terror loving Jew-haters from twisting facts and truth to suit their diabolical anti-Semitic hatred and support for terrorism.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 16 November 2023 7:39:34 AM
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