Well, it seems the whole bombed hospital meme has been rapidly buried. All those here and elsewhere who swiftly and credulously fell for Hamas' lies about the incident, couldn't memory-hole it quickly enough when the truth emerged.

But fear not....they've learned nothing and will just as swiftly and credulously fall for the next case of Hamas propaganda.

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Approx 4000 'Palestinians' killed in the latest unpleasantness - the whole world erupts to save all these precious lives.

Meanwhile there is a civil war in Yemen where 377,000+ people have been killed,85,000 Yemeni children died from starvation,4 million people displaced - and the whole world yawns and looks elsewhere.

I wonder what the difference is? Oh wait... in one case you can use the deaths to pillory Israel and in the other it has nothing to do with Israel.

All Arab lives matter....except...

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BTW when one Arab kills another, does he still get 72 virgins? Asking for a friend.

'They just never had a state called Palestine governed by a people called Palestinians."

How does that change things?

And while that may be true, they were given assurances by the British that they would be able to determine their own future if they rose up against the Ottomans.

And whether it's important or not, they did have money with 'Palestine' on it.

Did you watch this video and do you understand what the Nakba was?
Do you understand what happened and how things came to be?

Britain in Palestine 1917-1948
http://youtu.be/hOJqLTc6RkU

Nakba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

Do you also understand that everything Palestinians and Hamas stand accused of was firstly done to them?
Do you also understand that these people lived on that land for hundreds of years?

'claiming they are occupied because their ancestors lived in the region now controlled by Israel'.
- This shows your ignorance, they are 'occupied' because of the events of 1948. Watch the damn video, and learn the history.

"AC twists and weaves to try to make the real world fit his inane fantasy world, and always ends up tying himself in knots."

Pffttt. Stop trying to convince others I'm wrong and focus on presenting your own facts.
I've got videos, links and even footage of Jews from 1948 from the 'War of independence' admitting to what they did.
You're the one tying yourself in knots trying to create some alternate reality.

Reading the book by renowned Israeli historian,
Prof. Elan Pappe, "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine,"
might clarify things for some people.

"Well, it seems the whole bombed hospital meme has been rapidly buried. All those here and elsewhere who swiftly and credulously fell for Hamas' lies about the incident, couldn't memory-hole it quickly enough when the truth emerged."

Whilst the evidence is inconclusive, both sides are going to stand on their existing biases.
It may have been Israel, it may have been Hamas.
I honestly don't know what effing world some of you lot live in sometimes.

And it doesn't change the fact that Israel has gone and killed well over 1000 kids in the last week or so in reprisal attacks meant to collective punish the Palestinians - as is form for Israel, who likes to cut off food and water and electricity as it feels like it.

And whilst killing innocent people should be denounced, under the occupation any member of the IDF is FAIR GAME, Hamas will kill 2 Israelis IDF and Israel responds by killing 30 Palestinians mostly women and kids, and that's been Netanyahu's standard response for a generation.

"Meanwhile there is a civil war in Yemen where 377,000+ people have been killed, 85,000 Yemeni children died from starvation, 4 million people displaced - and the whole world yawns and looks elsewhere."

That was another war the US was involved in, with the US providing weapons, intelligence and logistical support to Saudi Arabia and even Trump was happy to sell them weapons and assassinate Soleimani on his way to meet the Iraqi PM Abdul-Mahdi to try to broker a peace deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia and take note it was China who helped both parties mend the fences, not America - who does not engage in real diplomacy, as selling weapons is their game.

What I'd like to see happen right now is for the Rafah crossing on the border to Egypt to be opened so that non-combatants can get to safety.

Even if they have to build a tent city for refugees in the Sinai, of which the whole world would need to help out with the humanitarian situation;

- Innocent peoples lives are not worth dying over lines on a bloody map.
Let anyone who wants to leave go so they can save their lives and the lives of their young kids;

There may be a much bigger bloodbath about to be unleashed when Israel sends in ground forces.
Let those who are innocent and don't want to fight get to safety.