I see that the village idiot and his Jew-hating mates in the Greens are up in arms that Israelis are defending themselves even after Hamas was found guilty in the missile attack on the hospital.

What a morally bankrupt bunch of idiots.

" What a morally bankrupt bunch of idiots,"
spoken by Shadow Minister.

That is a very morally bankrupt statement. And adds
nothing of substance to this discussion.

US President has made it clear that, "Israel has an
opportunity to relieve the suffering of people who have
nowhere to go." "It's what they should do."

US officials have tried to convince their Israeli
counterparts in meetings during the US Presidential visit
that a scorched earth response in Gaza would trigger a
humanitarian catastrophe and a loss of support for Israel
and perhaps a wider war without eradicating Hamas.

United Nations and other aid agencies have warned that
Gaza's entrapped population of 2.3 million people is in
imminent danger of death by dehydration, hunger, disease,
and injuries from bombardment.

The ActionAid agency said that 70% of the more than 3,000
Palestinians killed in the past 10 days were women and
children.

A shocking situation that won't be solved unless pressure is
applied strongly on both sides.

The village idiot loves his Nazis murdering Jews, Jono Doig, Hamas and Putin that's why he joined the Greens.

That's also why he doesn't want Israel to destroy Hamas so they can kill more Jews later.

Shadow Minister,

There's enough conflict in the Middle East.
We don't need any more of it on this forum.

____________________________________________________________________

It is clear that unless something happens to stop the
violence, we could be faced with a world-changing war.
If the senseless vio9lence, which has already claimed
over 3,000 Palestinian lives in Gaza spreads across
the Middle East and North Africa, the death tolls, and
the devastation experienced by the long-suffering peoples
of the region would be unprecedented.

Everyone in the Middle East and around the globe
should be attempting to try to find a way for peace
and stability in the region
and bring an end to this dreadful conflict.

AC wrote:

"But isn't that the argument you're making when you say 'these people never had a state'?"

1) I never said that. Yet again you just make up quotes. They always had a state, they just never had a state called Palestine governed by a people called Palestinians. Yet again for the slow of reading, there never has been a Palestinian state and there never was a sub-group of Arabs called Palestinians until they decided in the 1960s that it would be politically advantageous and would help to confuse the easily confused. It seems it worked a treat with AC.

2) Here's what I originally wrote: "On[e] wonders how it can be asserted that Israel occupies Palestinian land when in fact there has never been a Palestinian state and indeed the very notion of there being a Palestinian people is a political invention from the 1960s."

One country can't be said to be an occupying power of another when the so-called occupied state never existed. I can't say it any simpler.

The penny now seems to have dropped with AC and he's claiming they are occupied because their ancestors lived in the region now controlled by Israel. Of course, if that is the standard then it opens up a whole new realm of international affairs. For example, Jews once lived in Gaza as recently as 2005. Does that mean that Hamas is an occupying power?

AC twists and weaves to try to make the real world fit his inane fantasy world, and always ends up tying himself in knots.

"I see that the village idiot and his Jew-hating mates in the Greens are up in arms that Israelis are defending themselves even after Hamas was found guilty in the missile attack on the hospital."

Hamas has not been found guilty in the hospital explosion.
The evidence is inconclusive; there's not enough information to determine which side was responsible.
If you have some share it.

In Depth Analysis On The Al Ahli Hospital Bombings
http://youtu.be/rII2CwIOrDM

Points to note here:
It is said that Israel warned the Palestinians twice prior to the explosion to evacuate the hospital, I don't know by what means that directive was given, I haven't seen any Israeli government media releases or anything, but apparently that is what some have said.
If this is true, then it adds weight to the argument Israel did it.

Then we have those tweets that both SR and myself shared.
And it turns out they ARE in fact genuine, but it's possible Hananya Naftali was mistaken, as he claims.

What is Israel’s narrative on the Gaza hospital explosion?
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/18/what-is-israels-narrative-on-the-gaza-hospital-explosion
(Scroll down to the section 'How did Israel react?'

Then we have the size of the explosion.
If the footage is genuine, then it looks like a bigger explosion than Hamas may have been capable of.

Then there is the footage which shows that an Israeli aircraft may have been in the vicinity at the time, how reliable the info is I'm not sure.

Also the damage to the car roofs seems to indicate the explosion occurred above ground level and also there was no crater.
This may or may not be consistent with a faulty Hamas rocket exploding on launch, but given the size of the explosion (if genuine) it may also be that Israel used some other kind of weapon that detonated above ground level.

Ultimately, there's just not enough info to say for sure.
It should be noted that given the situation both sides have a reason to lie.