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The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

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Dear Steele,

A glitch perhaps, but the damage is done, and with the legislation being removed I am guessing that there was a bit more going on. Democratic privilege is problematic for me, but the prospect of an obfuscating layer of bureaucracy doesn't help either. Imagine the frustration of front line public employees. For example, would police require a cultural support officer present when dealing with indigenous Australians? That seems a bit silly to me, and unlike WA it would be very hard to reverse.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 6:23:05 AM
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Victorian public servants could be pressured to do work for the race-based Voice, irrespective of their personal views on trashing the Constitution. Anyone who disagrees will "have their card marked".
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 8:42:07 AM
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I was just reading an ABC piece from Q & A and the aboriginal woman from Browerville was saying Voting YES will increase the life span of her young people who had died from alcohol and drugs. Besides, it would remove discrimination shown to aboriginal people. FALSE HOPE. We already have laws for discrimination, and if people choose drunkenness and drugs a Yes Vote will not increase their life span.

It appears that aboriginals are given false hope of a better life if they Vote Yes. The fact is only they can improve their life by taking steps of self-discipline. Many have entered a better life, like many of our athletes. Those with false hope believe they will be flooded with money from "pay the rent", if they vote yes and are on drugs - Hooray more drugs, more booze, Wonderful
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 9:49:50 AM
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Dear Josephus,

By voting YES in the referendum we create a pathway
for Indigenous Australians to speak directly to
the government of the day about things that work on
the ground of their communities. This will mean
fewer misdirected resources and real results for
Indigenous Australians.

They are asking for self determination, to take
responsibility - and I am pleased that you agree
with putting your money where your mouth is. I am
pleased that instead of consistently knocking them
down - you can see the opportunity here and approve
of giving it to them.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 9:58:58 AM
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If the Voice promoters were not up to no good they could legislate all this stuff so everybody could see how it would work. If it did work well, then further steps could be considered, perhaps.

The fact that this approach hasn't been taken says it all. Albanese and company are so unsure of themselves and the value of their product that they don't want it tested. Straight into the Constitution where it would stay no matter how bad it turned out to be.

It blows the mind to think that there are people stupid enough to vote yes for this shady deal.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 5:01:23 PM
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There is no "shady" deal here. Everything has been
explained many, many, times over - what the Voice is, and
how it will work, and so on. But, I guess some people
prefer fear-mongering and scare tactics. They did the same
thing with Mabo, and then same-sex marriage, and so it goes.
Always was and always will be.

And yet they will always blame others and never themselves.
Others will always be the "problem." And they will
happily blame others for being divisive. "No worries, we're
here for you(mostly)." "Hold my beer.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 6:52:37 PM
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