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The Forum > General Discussion > The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

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I shall repeat what I posted on another discussion
for those who have difficulty understanding:

As Australians, we pride ourselves on our diverse and
vibrant society. One important piece of our history has
not yet been recognised in our Constitution and that is
the 65,000 years of continuous cultural connection to
this land by Indigenous Australians, the Aborigines and
Torres Strait Islander people.

By voting YES in the referendum we create a pathway for
Indigenous Australians to speak directly to the government
of the day about things that work on the ground of their
communities. This will mean fewer misdirected resources
and real results for Indigenous Australians.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 3:04:01 PM
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From SBS< http://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/explainer-what-is-a-treaty/p2h2mr5ym

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/what-does-a-treaty-with-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-people-mean/579c2xnkj

"The 2017 Uluru Statement From the Heart calls for Voice-Truth-Treaty, in that order.

There are overseas examples of treaties with First Nations peoples, in countries such as New Zealand and Canada.
Just months from a vote on an Indigenous Voice to Parliament, the Opposition is pressing Labor on the prospect of a treaty with First Nations Australians.

The Voice was first called for in the 2017 Uluru Statement From the Heart, which also flagged truth-telling about Australia's history, and a process for treaty with Indigenous people, to follow the Voice.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's first words on election night committed Labor to implementing the Uluru Statement "in full", but he has recently stressed this year's referendum is about the Voice only."
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Albanese has recently stressed that, while the Commonwealth is focusing on the Voice, treaty processes are already in motion at a state level.

Pressed on whether he supports a treaty, he told ABC radio: "That's [already] occurring. That's like saying, do you support the sun coming up?"

It is up to the States to form a Treaty with the local tribes the State occupies.

THE STATES WILL MAKE A TREATY AFTER THE VOICE IS IN FORCE IN THE FEDERAL PARLIAMENT< ACCORDING TO ALBANESE
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 7 August 2023 3:07:24 PM
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Incarcerated people (in prison) are not allowed to
vote. And so many in our jails are Aboriginal or
Torres Strait Islander people. The law does not allow
them a vote. There are thousands of them.

They won't be able to have a say on a Voice to Parliament.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 3:30:00 PM
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In the United States you can be charged with criminal
offences, be in jail and
run for President.

Wow!
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 3:33:12 PM
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The Constitution is not a document that will change the diverse cultures in Australia, they happen already and are not legislated. It is a Fantasy that a Voice will enhance aboriginal culture unless they are going to legislate aboriginal culture as compulsory for everyone. You can kick up dust and smoke all you want, and introduce aboriginal law, but it is not a culture that I identify with. It has only been in recent years that Western music has been adopted by aboriginals, even the didgeridoo only has records of 1,500 years when they discovered termites ate out the hardwood of saplings and they could blow through them and make noises.

Aboriginal culture, tribal customs, and laws.
Aboriginal tribal law is often seen as harsh and brutal, but it ensured order and discipline. Payback is the most known form of customary law. Payback is still practiced, conflicting with Western law.

Source: Tribal punishment, customary law & payback - Creative Spirits, retrieved from http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/law/tribal-punishment-customary-law-paybackboriginal LAW:

SELF DETERMINATION - THEIR CUSTOM IS PAYBACK AND THEY WANT TO ADMINISTER TRIBAL LAWS OF ABORIGINAL JUSTICE - DEATH FOR DEATH.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 7 August 2023 3:51:35 PM
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Dear Fester,

Again with: "If word gets out that that an indigenous corporation demanded a $2.5 million approval fee for a land care group to plant 5500 trees along a Perth river, I think that the yes vote will be lucky to break 30%."

It money wasn't to be allowed to plant trees, but rather attempting to resolve earlier funding promises. It was done in an injudicious manner by the CEO who within a couple of weeks was no longer employed by the organisation.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 7 August 2023 4:17:29 PM
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