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The Forum > General Discussion > The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

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3. As I’m sure you are aware, ttbn, a 46,000-year-old Aboriginal heritage site destroyed by Rio Tinto in 2020 was one of more than 463 sites that mining companies operating in Western Australia had applied for permission to destroy or disturb.

None of the applications had been refused. And under the state’s 48-year-old Aboriginal heritage laws, only the land- or leaseholder had the right to appeal – traditional owners did not.

New Aboriginal cultural heritage laws were promulgated in 2021 but they went too far in attempting to protect the heritage sites and were rescinded 39 days later.

The problem you mention was settled two years ago, ttbn, you should know that. It no longer exists.

As a matter of fact, the WA branch of the National Party says it supports the creation of a national Voice and the WA Liberal Leader Libby Mettam has taken a similar stance.

See for yourself :

http://thewest.com.au/politics/wa-nationals-support-indigenous-voice-c-9001981

http://thewest.com.au/politics/state-politics/voice-to-parliament-wa-liberal-leader-libby-mettam-defies-federal-party-position-says-she-will-vote-yes-c-10262046

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 17 August 2023 1:06:11 AM
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So far, I've read some good points however, there's quite a bit of idealistic waffle that is not consistent or comparable with the actual mentality of people then & now.
We have a situation where victors play victim & vice versa by manipulating historical context to gain modern benefits.
The way I see it is that no-one is pointing out personal effort by people to help themselves or others.
The settlers have all but ruined & overused natural resources & outsiders are still doing so sanctioned by the people to satisfy the demands for consumer products by the average every day person living here & the royalties paid to selected indigenous key figures who are not distributing benefits as the providers of the benefits are requesting. This may or may not get worse with the Voice depending on the characters in charge. I personally know one of the Voice panel & this person is locally known as a very racist control freak & another I know is a nice enough person but a fence-sitter & not a clear cut decision maker.
When the Voice makes a clear point of individual effort & responsibility requirement for all then I'd consider giving some support but not as things are at present. There's too much corruption & antagonism & in my book enshrining activist mentality in the Constitution is ill advised & definitely wrong !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 17 August 2023 6:19:37 AM
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The Voice gives Australians a wonderful opportunity to tell Albanese and minority activists where they can put their divisive nonsense. They can vote NO to it.

The tide just might be starting to turn against the woke, virtue-signalling Left.

A marketing strategist and consultant interviewed on ADH TV Tuesday night reported that a mere 10%-13% of people across ALL generations are actually woke or believe in wokeness.

You won't see or hear that on the mainstream media, or your ABC.

If you have had enough of the depressing sludge on mainstream media, or just want to hear alternative views, download the ADH TV app to a smart TV or other devices. Presenters are: Alan Jones, David Flint, Fred Pawle, Nick Cator, Damian Coory, Dave Pellowe, all interviewing prominent and knowledgeable Australians, plus overseas guests. Mark Steyn and Spectator TV are also available. Free.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 August 2023 6:39:48 AM
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Dear Banjo,

Libby Mettam withdrew her support for the Voice after seeing what can go wrong if you don't get the details right:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-12/wa-liberal-leader-to-vote-no-on-the-voice-after-supporting-yes/102722890

A yes vote is like signing the contract before it is written.
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 17 August 2023 7:58:45 AM
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" The Uluru Statement from the Heart is ONE page.
It is 439 words. It is supported by other documents
contained in the Referendum Council report that
reflect and document the many regional dialogues
and consultations leading up to it."

"These have been public for seven years. They are found
on the Referendum Council website. These are the
official documents.. The public, politicians and media
have all been encouraged by the Uluru Dialogues to
learn more on the Uluru Statement for seven years."

The recent on going debate on the Voice and the length
of the Uluru Statement is a reflection of the way
Indigenous issues are treated in this country.

"The fact that a single NO advocate (Peta Credlin)
shamefully has used her privileged media platform to
confuse the main stream media and our political
leaders so dramatically about the Voice tells you
everything you need to know about the way Indigenous
issues are treated in this country."

"When we speak, we are ignored. When we work harder to
reassure - we are ignored. When we strive to meet the
many hurdles that are put in front of us the goal
posts are shifted. When we encourage ALL Australians
to inform themselves by reading DEEPLY - that is
distorted and weaponised by a NO campaign that has
no alternative and is intent on misinformation,
scare tactics and fear mongering and division."

(Taken from a speech by Prof. Megan Davis - an architect
of the Uluru Statement - made for clarification).
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 17 August 2023 9:33:08 AM
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Albozo was right, a NO vote will do nothing for Aboriginals, however, there is no evidence that a YES vote will do either.

There are many Aboriginal councils and organisations set up to provide advice and 11 Aboriginal MPs. Albozo has given no indication as to how the voice will make any improvement other than boosting the opulent lifestyles of the self appointed activists.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 17 August 2023 9:33:12 AM
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