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The Forum > General Discussion > The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

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There has been a re-imagining of aboriginal culture. What is now imagined has very little resemblance to the reality of the past. Connecting the past to urbanised, mainly mixed race people is bollocks. And 'real' aborigines live in remote camps, where they can't be helped because they don't work (there are no jobs in the middle of nowhere) they don't go to school, many don't even speak English. And the lazy buggers won't do anything about it. Everything they have now has been supplied by whitey, and they can't even take care of what they are given.

These people won't help themselves by moving to somewhere there are jobs; they won't send their kids to school (and the government doesn't make them, is it does with non-aboriginal parents); they won't stay off the grog; they won't stay out of jail; they won't stop bashing women. They do bugger all for themselves, and they have no pride in themselves or their imagined past.

Virtue signalling, which is all the Voice would be, plus well-paid sinecures for a couple of dozen activists, would not make one iota of difference to these no-hopers.

After 235 years, people who still haven't joined in with 97% of the population who are enjoying modernity, civilisation and prosperity are never going to do so, just because another crackpot scheme is vomited up by a cynical Prime Minister and and a bunch of Blackticvists who are in on the con for their own reasons.

The Prime Minister and his slippery supporters talk about 'truth'. What a load of nonsense, coming from a bunch of people who have lied about just about everything to do with this Voice rubbish, but who have well and truly been found out.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 5:19:57 PM
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Albanese has really lost his marbles now, saying that he cannot see how a NO vote will "advance aboriginal issues".

Duh! It won't. Nobody said it would! It's his YES vote that's supposed to do that, but people are deciding to vote NO because they don't want more money spent, and an even bigger aboriginal industry, on something else that will not advance aboriginal issues.

How on earth did this dill get into Parliament, let only become Prime Minister.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 5:37:11 PM
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I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can not download or even just read this 439 word page everyone's referencing ?
Hopefully Foxy or SteeleRedux or Paul1405 will put it up here for us to see !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 6:07:58 PM
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Dear Indyvidual,

Here you go mate.

http://www.referendumcouncil.org.au/final-report.html#toc-anchor-ulurustatement-from-the-heart
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 6:22:37 PM
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SteeleRedux,
Thank you, it'll take me some time to digest the 1 (38) page.
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 6:44:23 PM
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Dear ttbn,

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You wrote :

« We now know that, if the Voice was successful, we could definitely expect:

1. Reparations and compensation.
2. Abolishing Australia Day.
3. Expanding WA-style Aboriginal cultural heritage laws that mean you have to pay up every time you want to do something on your own property - »
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You raise some interesting points there, ttbn.

1. It was Scott Morrison, Prime Minister and leader of the conservative coalition government who decided reparation in 2021 for members of the “Stolen Generations” after a group of Indigenous people began legal action for compensation.

Morrison told Parliament that AUS$378.6 million would be allocated to redress the human damage of the policy, including one-off payments of AUS$75,000 for its victims.

This compensation was obtained from the conservative government without any need for a “First Nations Voice”.

2. As far as I know, nobody expects Australia Day to be “abolished” per se, but please correct me if I am wrong. And any decision to change the name and/or the date would have to be made conjointly by the Australian federal and state governments, but this has, so far, lacked sufficient political and public support.

According to the latest poll, a special Roy Morgan SMS Poll on 24 January 2023, nearly two-thirds of Australians (64%) say January 26 should be known as ‘Australia Day’, virtually unchanged on a year ago.

In any event, the proposed First Nations Voice would have no power to either change or delete Australia Day even if there were sufficient political and public support to do so.

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(Continued …)

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 17 August 2023 1:02:23 AM
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