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When Religion Is Taken To The Extreme

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Addressing hate speech does not mean limiting, or
prohibiting freedom of speech.

It means keeping hate speech from escalating into
something more dangerous, particularly incitement
to discrimination, hostility, and violence, which is
prohibited under international law.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 4 August 2023 10:24:45 AM
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Shared values, it's all crap. It's feelgood western bs.
- It sounds nice, 'virtuous ethical principles' and the like...
until you see that they really have no values at all and are a bunch of hypocrites.

EU bans RT, Sputnik over Ukraine disinformation
http://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-bans-rt-sputnik-banned-over-ukraine-disinformation-2022-03-02/

"Russian state-controlled media outlets RT and Sputnik will be banned in the European Union with immediate effect for systematic disinformation over Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the 27-country bloc said on Wednesday in an unprecedented move.

The sanction means EU operators will be prohibited from broadcasting, facilitating or otherwise contributing to the dissemination of any RT and Sputnik content."

EU 'Strongly Condemns' Blocking Of France 24 And RFI In Niger Jug/raz/ach
http://www.barrons.com/news/eu-strongly-condemns-blocking-of-france-24-and-rfi-in-niger-jug-raz-ach-36ca2648

>>The European Union on Friday "strongly" condemned the blocking of French media broadcasts in Niger, where last week's coup sparked protests against the country's former colonial ruler.

"This step is a serious violation of the right to information and freedom of expression. The EU strongly condemns these violations of fundamental freedoms," EU spokeswoman Nabila Massrali said on Twitter, recently rebranded as X.<<

What shared western values?
What's the story here exactly?
'We always tell you the truth, but we can't have you listening to another point of view, as they are liars. You must ONLY listen to us'

Hmmm....

"It means keeping hate speech from escalating into
something more dangerous, particularly incitement
to discrimination, hostility, and violence, which is
prohibited under international law."

Tell me Foxy, did you vilify the unvaxxed during the height of the pandemic?
- It's funny how these worldly well-meaning people can have such double standards.

Cracking down on media freedom is frequently used to label a government a regime.
Looks like the EU is openly no longer a democracy, if it ever was given the way they bully, threaten and coerce their member states.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 5 August 2023 7:16:33 PM
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There must be a distinct separation between church and state.
The state should always prevail.
And I am distinctly uneasy when it takes second place.
For example, allowing knives to be carried by students for 'religious' reasons.
NO.
This nonsense should cease.
No religious concept should be allowed to override the safety given by logically applied law.
It is time for the law to stand firm.
All these absurdities in the name of religion is almost horrifying.
When laws appear to have contradictory aims, a balance needs to be realised.
And that balance must always favour safety.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Sunday, 6 August 2023 4:57:42 PM
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Ipso Fatso, you cannot exclude values from the laws. All laws are based on values, and values come from how one views the world - that is religion - or faith.

here is an article I just read from archeology.
The Moabite Stone
In 1868, a missionary in Jerusalem found a stone tablet for sale that appeared to be from ancient times. The sellers broke the tablet into a number of pieces to sell them one at a time to make more money.
Fortunately, a copy of the tablet was made prior to the break (this copy is in the Louvre today). On the tablet is a text written in Moabite dating to the ninth century BC. It was perhaps a victory stone erected by King Mesha to commemorate his military achievements. The text begins, “I am Mesha son of Chemosh, king of Moab.”
Prominent in the text is the king’s version of a war fought with Israel in 850 BC, in which Moab revolted against King Jehoram of the northern kingdom of Israel soon after the death of Ahab. Of particular interest is that the Bible records the same incident in 2 Kings 3. The two accounts differ in perspective. Mesha emphasizes his victories over Israel in capturing cities under Israelite control. The biblical writer, to the contrary, highlights Israel’s successful counter attacks against the Moabites.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 6 August 2023 5:21:12 PM
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In my opinion it is better to ask questions and doubt than to have faith. Faith can lead into religious crusades, following a great leader or believing in an eventual classless society. Separation of religion and government is necessary to establish a democratic society. I would trust more in values derived from a rational consideration of alternatives than I would in faith. The Bible is not an adequate guide for a modern, democratic society. The Bible accepts slavery, and slavery is not acceptable in modern, democratic society.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 6 August 2023 6:31:53 PM
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Regarding laws and values?

Laws are always changing and reflect the morals and
values of the society we live in. Laws are made by
the government responding to societal change.
Existing laws change when they require updating and
are no longer relevant.

Some religious people condemn abortion, euthanasia, same-sex
marriages, and so on. We now have laws governing those things
not religion.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 10:16:29 AM
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