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When Religion Is Taken To The Extreme

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Dear mhaze,

The atrocities of Marxism are not due to Marxism taken to the extreme. They are basic to Marxism.

https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12693

is an article I wrote on the subject.

https://jcpa.org/article/the-egyptian-beginning-of-anti-semitism%E2%80%99s-long-history/

"The initial indication of a negative attitude toward Jews is found at the beginning of the third century BCE in the writings of an Egyptian priest called Manetho. This Greek-speaking Egyptian devotes a large section of his main work, which deals with the history of Egypt, to the Exodus of the Israelites."
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:15:00 AM
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Making a distinction between secular and religious
violence is misleading and unhelpful. So called
secular ideologies like nationalism, liberalism,
can be just as
divisive and irrational as so called religious ones.
People are violent and kill for all sorts of things.
Political, economic, and the list goes on.

Under what conditions do certain beliefs and
practices turn violent? jihad? the sacrificial
atonement of Christ, the role of the US as world wide
liberator?

Lets take a look at religion compared to politics:

! Religion focuses on ultimate concerns. So does politics.

2) Religion builds communities. So does politics.

3) Religion appeals to myths and symbols. Politics mimics
this in devotion to the flag, war, memorials, and so on.

4) Religion uses rituals, rites, and ceremonies. Politics
depends on rites and ceremonies.

5) Religion requires followers to behave in certain ways.
Politics and governments, and political parties also
demand certain behaviour.

Religion and politics are closely inter-twined. We should not
warn of the dangers of religion and ignore the violent
tendencies that politics can bring.

Let us not forget that religion was not considered as
something separate from political institutions until the
modern era - and primarily in the West.

Egyptian and Roman "religions" were not separate from
Egyptian and Roman states. Was Aztec "politics" to blame
for their bloody human sacrifices or was Aztec "religion"
to blame? The separation of religion from culture, politics,
economics, nationalism, and other areas of life is an
invention of the Modern World.

Solely blaming religion is misleading and everything needs
to be looked at in its proper context.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:59:39 AM
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You have to be a pretty desperate sort of atheist to jump on the actions of a lunatic just to attack Christianity. And an extreme lunatic this woman is - an extreme lunatic, not an extreme Christian. She is no Christian at all. She will now rot in jail for the rest of her life - which might not be long. Kid killers are not all that popular among prison populations.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:18:56 AM
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Foxy a good article.
However, a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ should not be associated with Christianity per say or founded by state powers. He wept for his Jewish brothers blest them and desired his followers to share his teachings with the Nations. His way, His truth, His demonstrated life with all persons. Christ teachings are about care and character for all persons even opponents.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:31:45 AM
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Dear Josephus,

Even those you call pagans like our First Nations people
and consistently criticize?

Perhaps you need to practice Christ's teachings more
and preach less.?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:42:25 AM
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Dear Josephus,

The Synoptic Gospels attribute the following quotes to Jesus: "Whoever is not with Me is against Me, and whoever does not gather with Me scatters" (Matthew 12:30), as well as the corresponding statement, "Whoever is not against us is for us" (Luke 9:50; Mark 9:40).

The above breeds hate. I don’t want to be a follower of Jesus, but I don’t want to be an enemy of Jesus or his followers. The above quote doesn’t allow neutrality. You are a follower or an enemy.

Jesus in the above is intolerant of those who don't follow him. He breeds hate.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:55:19 AM
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