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Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 7:22:43 PM
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"The portion of the dam wall under Russian control was the part destroyed, flooding the valley protects Russia from a Ukrainian attack. This was yet another Russian war crime."
You're so foolish buying into the crap you're fed that you miss the bleeding obvious SM, Russia was in control of the dam, if they wanted to flood everything downstream they need not blow up the dam, they only had to open the dam gates themselves. - They didn't do that and do you know why? Because the eastern side was of much lower lying ground than the western side and their own defensive positions would stand to be flooded and they would suffer militarily more than it benefited them militarily. Russia didn't do it Fester. I've even read documents dating back to last year where Russia said that Ukraine was planning to do this. It's why they moved back to the eastern side and gave up Kherson City despite all the crap about retreating they copped for it. - And even when I told you the great Kherson counter offensive there last year amounted to nothing and they strategically withdrew, because of the risk of Ukraine blowing up the dam, don't either of you tell me you don't remember me saying it. - And I already mentioned the loss of Crimean water supply earlier. They came out with the same bs 'Russia did it' narrative for weeks after Nordstream was blown up, remember? Too bad Ukraine in their 'it's not THE counter offensive because it failed counter offensive' lost nearly 40 western tanks including 8 Leopards and couple of Bradleys and over 100 armoured fighting vehicles. (And don't forget your grandkids will have to pay for those lost Aussie donated Bushmasters) Great way to control the narrative on their botched counter offensive. Should I say I told you so? Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 10:19:01 PM
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They didn't even reach the Russian fortified defensive lines.
If they lost that much not even reaching them what do you think is going to happen when they do, and Crimea is 27,000 square kilometers of territory. They cannot sustain those kinds of losses. Ukraine has no forward artillery for their counter offensive and no air power to give their troops any kind of cover. Russia does, and Ukraine got smashed just as I told you. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 10:26:52 PM
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On October 21, 2022, Russia's Ambassador to the UN sent a letter to the UN Secretary General regarding Kiev regime's plans to destroy the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric dam.
http://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1666038487546560514 "Total losses of Ukrainian troops in the southern Donetsk Region area were more than 1,500 Ukrainian servicemen, 28 tanks, of them 8 German-made Leopard tanks, 3 wheeled French-made АМХ-10 tanks and 109 armored fighting vehicles," the ministry said. http://tass.com/defense/1628105 (sorry I couldn't find the actual Russian MOD statement.) Russia Mocked For Claiming To Destroy 4 US-Made Bradley Fighting Vehicles That Are Yet To Be Delivered To Ukraine http://eurasiantimes.com/russia-mocked-for-claiming-to-destroy-4-us-made-bradley-fighting-vehicles-that-are-yet-to-be-delivered-to-ukraine/ Liars, what's this on the 1st June? http://twitter.com/walter_report/status/1663959273754198032 On the first day of the offensive Ukraine lost 250 troops, 16 western tanks, 24 armored fighting vehicles, including three Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. http://twitter.com/12_31_84/status/1665717474258743296 On the second day they had another crack, losses increased to 1500 troops, 28 tanks, 109 armored fighting vehicles. - and they achieved NOTHING, were driven back to their former positions. I ask you again and again. How are you going to achieve any kind of successful military outcome when you're losing this much equipment? 'Believing' won't change the outcome, no matter how hopeful or certain you are, I'm sorry. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 11:51:51 PM
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"The tide has turned and the Russians are petrified."
- Maybe they'll just drop down on the ground into the fetal position or run away screaming. If that's what you need to sleep at night SM, then who am I to blow your buzz? - Keep on believing, don't let me stop you from making a fool of yourself mate. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 8 June 2023 12:01:32 AM
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AC,
No one believes that anyone other than the Russians blew up the dam, even Russian Mil bloggers are accepting it. That it was blown up on the Russian side which the Ukrainians had no access to makes Russian denials laughable. That the flood did more damage to the Russian eastern side than the Ukrainian side speaks more to Russian incompetence and desperation than their innocence. Secondly, you should read what you post as you just proved yourself wrong. "Russia Mocked For Claiming To Destroy 4 US-Made Bradley Fighting Vehicles That Are Yet To Be Delivered To Ukraine" Was in January 2023, and the photo of the BFV in Ukraine was in June 2023 6 months later. Your claims are pure fantasy. Russia is retreating on every front from Belgorad to Zaphoriza Russia is losing this war. Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:23:43 AM
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Apparently the Russians intended to blow a hole in the dam big enough to flood some islands and thwart the Ukrainians, but the dam started collapsing. The consequence is that they flooded their own positions and destroyed their own equipment. They also cut Crimea's water supply, and when the flood recedes in a few weeks the front will be vulnerable to an attack by the Ukrainians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQbQXUxfhGM
Russia stuffed up big time AC.