"You continually admonish others for accepting the propaganda from the West/Ukraine side while you continually accept the propaganda from the Russian side."

- Maybe I'm just trying to level the playing field from all the crap many of you blindly believe without question.

"I was the first one to say years ago 'that the first casualty in war is the truth'"

Regurgitating it is one thing.

Living by quite another. When you start trying to debunk Russian propaganda with the same fervour as you try (however ineptly) to debunk western propaganda, then I'll accept that you understand the meaning of the saying.

'Russian propaganda' is merely a well used catch word for 'move along nothing to see here' or
'Don't you look at or listen to that, you should instead be looking at and listening to the bs we're selling'

So the Russian don't use propaganda? You're hilarious AC. Simultaneously claiming to know both sides lie, while steadfastly asserting that your favoured side doesn't.

"So the Russian don't use propaganda?"
- I'm not necessarily saying that.
I'm saying that western media is biased, and labels EVERYTHING that doesn't suit their own narrative or propaganda as 'Russian propaganda' whether true or not.
- And this says a lot for the quality and impartiality of western media.
They claim 'freedom of speech' and 'freedom of the press' but it's a rigged system.

Don't believe me listen to what Tucker Carlson says, and I'm pretty sure he has a lot more first hand experience than you do.
http://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1656037032538390530

As for as Ukraine is concerned how much of what you get comes from the Western backed Ukrainian government (all of it), who did away with opposition parties, and how much reporting comes from the Russian side in Donbass? (none of it)

If they did report the Russian point of view they'd be put on a Myrotvorets i.e. Ukrainian hit list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

And we all know what happened to Daria Dugan and Vladlen Tatarsky - liquidated.
So don't talk to me about virtuous western media, and freedom of speech / freedom of the press.

- Pretty much any reporting from Russian held regions in Donbass independent or otherwise is labelled 'Russian propaganda'.

Ukraine has even attacked journalists from CNN and Sky News.
http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-revokes-journalist-accreditations-kherson-reports/32130021.html
- And even this news above comes from US government funded media.

I swear if we went back 20 years many of you would be the same guillible morons running around pointing fingers that something must be done about Iraq's WMDs.

20 years later and you still haven't learned a thing.