I have a question for the YES group. If this VOICE is an "Advisory" body, what do you envisage the outcome to be when advise is not heeded for genuine economic reasons ?
Will such a decision be accepted or will it be a reason to burr up & cause more strife than it's worth ?
What if advise is unreasonable etc etc !

I see the news are deliberately misrepresenting the liberal/ nationals' stance to create anger and hope to control the Australian minds to vote yes. The ABC interview with a Liberal yes decenter said at least we have him on side. Since when in the ABC holding sides on this? they are supposed to be neutral reporters without agenda.

Josephus,
The ABC should have funding reduced until they prove to be unbiased !

TTBN, yes I have asked Graham to delete my other profiles which got
setup when trying to fix no notifications. I do not think he is able
to do that. There was a suspicion that a known Telstra problem might
be involved it turns out to not be the problem.
I tried a different email address, but same result.
It appears to be a bug in the software running OLO.

Paul,
do the aborigines expect to be disadvantaged forever ?
Surely not ! So why is a permanent forever Voice needed ?
Lets simplify the whole argument and reconstruct the present
organisation, whose name I forget,which has the same functions as the
proposed Voice.
As those running it have been totally hopeless sack the lot and restock it.

Let's look at the facts.
A small group in Australia wants something.
To get it they need a majority of Australians to agree to it.
So surely they should explain their needs clearly.
Give us reasons which will convince us of the validity of those needs?
Then Australia can examine their reasons, and decide if they have a case?
After discussion, Australia will decide what it must do.
But this is not happening.
And that is because the 'Yes Camp' is not making its case.
They need to give us a series of logical 'Yes' reasons, and we are not getting them.
So the rest of Australia has nothing to work with.
Except an impassioned plea by the prime minister to grant his seemingly wondrous request.
Are we to take him at his word?
The whole thing is beginning to sound very much like a CON.
No good reason for it: just trust us and it will all work out.
So the situation right now is....
Were 'the voice' vote to succeed, we would have put back in to the constitution wording which discriminates on the basis of racial background.
I thought we voted to get rid of that back in the 1960's?

"Dutton now says that they will actively campaign against the racist rubbish." Every state Liberal leader is in favour of a YES vote, with several saying they will advise their state constituencies to vote that way .

Ken Wyatt, a 12 year MP and Liberal Minister for Aboriginal Affairs has told them to "shove it" and resigned from the party of bigots and racists. "Former Coalition senator Sam McMahon has called her former colleagues’ decision “stupid” and claimed Dutton had been “misled”, while Malcolm Turnbull has again stated he will back the referendum."

Bezza,

I support Constitutional recognition of First nations people as a unique group within Australian society. I do believe this referendum goes some way towards that goal. Its not all about disadvantage, its very much about recognition as well. I also believe Parliament is the ultimate law making authority, and always should be, that's why I support the Voice as an advisory body only.

I think many people like Dutton, that under their thin veneer of "concern" for Aboriginal people lies bigotry and racism. I hope I'm wrong, but past evidence shows them to be that type of people. In government the Noalition had ample opportunity to bring forth their own proposal for constitutional recognition, but never did. Why is that?