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Opus Dei And Twenty Million Dollars

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Dear Paul,

«are organised religions tolerant?»

This is almost like asking, "are organised religions religions?"

If they are not tolerant of God's children then what hope have they of approaching God?

«Hindus in India were extremely intolerant of Muslims»

It is not the Hindu religion which is intolerant.
It is not the Muslim religion which is not tolerated.
It is some Indians who identify as Hindus who are intolerant of others who identify as Muslims, because Muslim occupation has devastated India.

«"A bloke who believes God is on his side, is a dangerous man, like God he believes he can do no wrong."»

God does not take sides.
Those who do wrong will reap the painful consequences regardless what they believe or not.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 5 February 2023 8:15:27 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

When do we stop making excuses for the organisation by blaming the short comings of some particular individuals within that organisation. The KKK was not racists against African Americans, it was individuals who simply identified with the organisation, (members) that were racists, they identified with the general culture and philosophy of the organisation. At some point the members and the organisation are indivisible, so both must be held to account for the actions of the individuals.

"because Muslim occupation has devastated India." Maybe David will take up that point.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 5 February 2023 8:53:22 AM
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Dear Paul,

Hinduism reinforced the caste system in India that made
it nearly impossible for people to move outside of their
social system.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 February 2023 9:12:19 AM
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Dear Paul,

The KKK did not claim to seek God.
They were a racist organisation, not a religious organisation, and unlike Opus Dei, nor even claimed to be one.

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Dear Foxy,

The caste system as known by the West is a social distortion and not a part of the Hindu religion.

“All the reformers in India made the serious mistake of holding religion accountable for all the horrors of priest-craft and degeneration and went forth to put down the indestructible structure; and what was the result. Failure! Beginning from Buddha to Ram Mohan Roy, everyone made the mistake of holding caste to be a religious institution, and tried to pull down religion and caste all together, and failed.”

http://hindupost.in/history/swami-vivekananda-caste/
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 5 February 2023 10:10:06 AM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

You quote nonsense to buttress your nonsense. The statement, "We regard all religions as true." is more nonsense. Religions are contradictory. To regard all religions as true is to assume a contradiction can be true.

Yes, I don't enjoy nonsense, and that is more nonsense.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 5 February 2023 10:27:30 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

The KKK, one of the oldest hate groups in the US, by their
hoods, and robes, and artifacts, signal (and often embody)
the racist ideology of the Klan, along with their particular
brand of Protestanism and Nationalism.

Robes, fiery crosses, and even the American flag were/are
all material objects employed to convey their "gospel" of
white supremacy.

The Klan's religious nationalism, its vision of a white
Protestant America, became tangible in each of these artifacts,
and each artifact reflected the order's religious intolerance.

Nationalism for "100% Americanism"", Protestant Christianity,
and white supremacy became inextricably linked in these
material objects - and what the Klan stood for and believed in.

As for the Hindu caste system?

While the caste system originated in Hindu Scriptures,
it crystalized during British colonial rule and has stratified
society in every South Asian religious community in addition
to India.

It is present in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, the
Maldives and Bhutan. While the caste system originally was
for Hindus, nearly all Indians today identify with a caste,
regardless of their religion.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 5 February 2023 10:50:38 AM
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