Well not much to like about Islam, however the individual should not be persecuted for their beliefs in my book, either way. So that makes the boring C J Morgan, Perciles et al the persecutors of the individual and the one who hate a person for their beliefs. So my venom of the day is directed to the extreme right wing (certainly not leftwing) religous fundamentalists that declare jihad against anyone that speaks ill of Islam. So terribly backwards and plus religous totalitarian should not be tolerated on any level. Call it any phobia you like, it far better than be under religous censorship.

I hope that I am not repeating others, but ...

It seems to me that the vote against minarets is a roundabout way of the Swiss acting now to prevent their country from becoming demographically overwhelmed and to preserve Switzerland's current culture.

As the people of a number of other European countries are now facing the prospect of becoming minorities in their own lands, I think the vote by the Swiss is understandable and, ultimately, their sovereign right.

I think Australia should adopt as a matter of urgency Swiss-style Binding Citizens Initiated Referenda, otherwise known as 'direct democracy' to give Australians the right to preserve their current culture, which this Government is bent on destroying, and to redress a whole range of other evils that we have endured in recent decades as a result of so-called 'representative democracy', which has become what is more accurately termed by Dr Nicholas Aroney as 'elective dictatorship' (http://www.abc.net.au/rn/nationalinterest/stories/2009/2521912.htm) or what I would term 'elective tyranny'.

Consequently, I have written an open letter to Senator Bob Brown and Greens members requesting that they introduce BCIR legislation into parliament at the earliest possible opportunity. See https://candobetter.org/node/1725

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James Sinnamon

Brisbane Independent
for Truth[1], Democracy,
the Environment
and Social Justice

Australian Federal Elections, 2010

FOOTNOTES

1. See http://911truth.org

LOL CJ Morgan

You do like those words "Islamophobe" and "Islamophobic" as in "Islamophobic vilification".

Educate unenlightened me. What is the correct way of commenting on the Islamic superstition? How does it differ from commenting on the Christian superstition?

I mean you don’t deny that belief systems that condemn most of humanity to some sort of eternal hell if they fail to submit to a non-existent deity could fairly be called superstitions? Or do you?

HermanYutic, Philip Tang

I cannot prove that a first century itinerant Jewish preacher was not the "son of God" and "God incarnate" who rose from the dead. Nor can I prove that he did not raise his buddy, Lazarus, from the dead. But you must admit that it does reek of being a tall story and there is no rational reason to believe it.

Grateful,

If the koran is truly is direct message from the creator of the universe how come the creator does not know the basics of mammalian reproduction or geology? While I do not for one moment believe the Jesus story I obviously cannot disprove it. But the koran speaks for itself. It is manifestly not a message from the creator of the universe.

Why don't the THREE OF YOU leave your mental ghettoes, smell the roses and get a life?

JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT

I do NOT support a minaret ban.

In my view Muslims have as much right to proclaim their superstition as I have to express my loathing for it.

As much right as CJ Morgan has to repeat the word "Islamophobe" ad nauseam.

THE DOG STILL HAS NOT BARKED

I notice the response of the Muslim world has been remarkably muted when compared to the brouha over the Muhammad cartoons.

stevenlmeyer

"I notice the response of the Muslim world has been remarkably muted when compared to the brouha over the Muhammad cartoons."

Some articles were really quite interesting from Islam majority countries. The over riding theme was we expected more from Switzerland but then comments did admit..but we do that ourselves? There was sort of an admission that they were inferior in tolerance and you could sense self reflection. Could be a positive for the poor people suffocating under religous oppression afterall.

They see and hear more on the net and gather information that proves hypocrisy in their own minds so all this chatter good in the long run.

All good. People just need to understand we are vunerable to myths and many take advantage. The Nigerian email scam is quite short lived but all the same it shows people actually want to be scammed. You realise this then you are free. People want to be scammed. A human trait.

>> Educate unenlightened me. What is the correct way of commenting on the Islamic superstition?

with an understanding that your "the" actually makes no sense. with an understanding that "islamic" means many different things to many different "muslims", some focusing on the human, loving stuff and some on the nastiness, some on superstitious mumbo jumbo, some on ways of living.

in brief, don't engage in false and presumptuous grouping.

>> How does it differ from commenting on the Christian superstition?

it doesn't. but when creeps like pell and jensen get an almost free ride in this country, and muslims can't put a toe out of line without it being chopped off, i'll personally ease up a bit on the underdogs and focus on outspoken christian loons.

bushbasher,

The Koran exhorts its followers to chop off the heads, hands, fingertips and feet of the unbelievers:
Koran 8:12 "give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
Koran 5:33 "The only reward for those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land..."

These commands are being carried out on a daily basis around the globe by the true believers:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm

...but then bushbasher:
<muslims can't put a toe out of line without it being chopped off>

Talk about transference!
You couldn't make this stuff up.

But hang on...
the Koran doesn't specifically talk about chopping off toes,
so I guess you win again bushbasher.

BTW,
Muslims consider dogs to be unclean, so that describing them as underdogs shows an acute lack of cultural sensitivity.
Let's try to keep it respectful bushbasher.