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‘Post-feminist’ or ‘pro-rape’ culture? : Comments

By Anastasia Powell and Sheree Cartwright, published 16/11/2009

Women and men need to work together to ensure a culture that is 'anti-rape' and pro-equality.

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Rape is about power and violence, not sex.

Posted by suzeonline, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 6:22:44 PM

Is it really, then how come castration be it chemical or surgical works very well.

To my knowledge euncuhs or castratos do not commit sexual offenses.

How come the majority of alleged rapists are young men?

Also damage to the frontal cortex from what ever cause, is related to loss of inhibitions. I wonder how many men who have committed rape, have had damage to the frontal cortex?

There is an interesting progam on the ABC about primal instincts.
Posted by JamesH, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 6:47:47 PM
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JamesH:
Men rape women. When those men are castrated they no can longer rape women even if they want to. Therefore rape is about sex.

That is not very good logic. If someone loses the ability to do something it doesn't mean they no longer want to do it. People who rape do so for reasons other than sex and when that capacity is no longer available they just meet those same needs in other ways. They may become physically violent or seek to cause harm in other ways.

As Suze has said why do men rape women who are otherwise sexually unattractive. They are not looking for a a satisfying sexual experience they are looking to meet some other neurotic need. It is like saying people binge drink because they like the taste of alcohol. When you are half concious you can't taste anything.
Posted by phanto, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 8:12:38 PM
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phanto from what I've seen of the topic it's a mixture. Rapists tend to have a more negtive view of women than most men. They tend to be angrier at women and there are indications that power comes into it. It's also reported that they don't generally show a preference for rape over consentual sex, that they are more turned on my depictions of non-consentual sex than average but not as turned on as they are by images of consentual sex.

It's claimed (but I've not seen much on this) that attractive women are significantly more likely to be raped than unattractive ones.

I think both sides of the debate miss the mark by trying to tie it down to simple explainations.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 8:25:34 PM
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suzionline writes

'No Runner, what is sad is that there are still men like you in this modern world who still think that women who dress how you think is provocatively, ask for rape or sexual assault.'

Wow what a conclusion you jump to Suzi. 'Men like me' nothing like a woman jumping to conclusions. I suggest you calm down. If you don't think that women's behaviour contributes to some rape then you are very naive indeed. I suppose you also don't think that porn contributes to rape and child abuse. Their is a big difference between asking and contributing to a rape by being naive. Girls dressing as sex objects are far more likely to attract attention. What beats me is those who are dumb enough to deny this simple fact. Your personal rage and insults certainly does not change this.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 9:29:47 PM
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"Although rape involves sexual acts, it is motivated by the desire for power and control over another person
rather than by sexual attraction or the desire for sexual gratification. In other words, rape is a crime of violence." http://www.apex.net.au/~samssa/rape.html

a male will achieve nothing by seeking power and control over a woman who is not answerable to men.

a Constitution with provision for the enactment of law by agreement between a women's legislature and a men's legislature eliminates rape.
Posted by whistler, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 10:36:44 PM
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No Runner, I don't have rage and insults towards you, just exasperation that such ancient patriarchal views still exist.

I wonder what you and JamesH felt about the recent case where the male taxi driver picked up several drunk men over a period of time and took them back to his unit to anally rape them while they were drugged or drunk?

Did these poor men dress provocatively and contribute to the eventuality of being raped by this taxi driver? Was it because they were drunk and allowed themselves to be taken advantage of while under the influence?

Should we now tell all men not to drink excessively because it may lead to them being raped?
Posted by suzeonline, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 12:24:17 AM
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