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Bachelors who major in abhorrent behaviour : Comments

By Nina Funnell, published 13/11/2009

Men who hold misogynist and sexist attitudes can come from any class, community or culture.

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Hi Blairbar
Yes TheMissus, Australia is a "sexist society". To that you can add "racist, homophobic, reactionary, bigoted, ageist and xenophobic".
Oh for that wonderful land just somewhere over the rainbow.

Ha Ha. It is sexist because we use RACE AND XENOPHOBIA to divide and conquer. A rather useful trick to divide the worker class so they lose collective power. Seems always under this condition sexism thrives for some reason, I have no qualification to say why. However it is a fascist thing and we are creeping into fascist territory ever so slowly. I do not think we will ever quite get there but will suffer many symptoms. So maybe one day yes we will be wearing more clothes, rather than less. We will be scorned for batting eyelashes once again. We will take the blame for fat kiddies addicted to sugar. The apron beckons I am afraid.

But still fail to see how a PC incorrect Facebook page on soccer has anything to do with the price of fish. We are going hysterical over some really silly things of late.
Posted by TheMissus, Sunday, 15 November 2009 6:24:55 PM
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Its good to see some people can easily see through this woman's crazy double standards. A pole dancing supporter one day and willing to portray men who watch pole dancing as misogynists the next. Your articles aren't interesting just plain annoying and anti-intellectual, relying on the most base stereotyping to start arguments between people and then regarding this as giving your article some type of perverted victory in the popularity stakes.

Get a life Nina.
Posted by Atman, Sunday, 15 November 2009 9:02:34 PM
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Consent is-not the only issue.

When Psychme comes home unexpectedly and finds her husband in bed with her sister, she won’t be saying “as long as it’s consensual it’s ok.” Psychme will be thinking about the hurt they have caused and rightly so. There are many ways that people can hurt others by the way they conduct their sex-life. Blokes who treat women as another notch on the bed head. Women who sleep around provide an excuse for men to do the same. I could go on...

Another issue is that the way a person conducts their sex-life says so much about the person. The idea that society respects men who sleep around as some type of stud is dead wrong. They look arrogant and nasty when they treat women as expendable. When certain football players were found to have all stood around watching while team-mates took turns with one woman, they looked quite odd. Sleazy blokes can also be quite dishonest to get sex.

Women who sleep around are also judged to have character faults. They look like hypocrites. I haven’t met one yet who didn’t criticise men who loved them and left them. They look like losers. I haven’t met one yet who didn’t want a long term relationship, at some stage, with the guy of their dreams. Unfortunately, he can afford to be fussy, so sleeping around is shooting themselves in the foot. They also look arrogant. They seem addicted to the attention of the type of bloke who will do anything to get sex. No-one who feels comfortable up on a pedestal looks humble. It must also take an amazing amount of self-belief when they genuinely believe that they can sleep around without looking bad
Posted by benk, Sunday, 15 November 2009 10:33:28 PM
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Then there is the issue of why MISSUS BRIMBLE’S RAPIST KILLERS are still walking the streets free.
They didn’t take that date rape drug on board that ship for nothing. Anything else they said at trial is a lie to escape conviction after that. How stupid can a jury be and it seems to be all part of societies ridiculous blaming of the women in these situations.

That drug was slipped into Mrs Brimbles drink at the bar and that’s why she appeared to be drunker then she actually was. Even supposing she did go to the cabin with one bloke voluntarily and I doubt that too, she certainly wouldn’t have been interesting in having it off with all his mates, any fool can see that it was totally out of character for the woman.
Then there is the injustice in the case of Andrew Johns and his rapist fellow footballers. He admitted it on National T.V. when he said “I APOLOGIES TO CLAIRE FOR ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THE ROOM.”
He set that woman up, fullstop.

JUSTICE MUST BE SEEN TO BE DONE.
I said it would lead to a male belief that they can set these situations up and get away with it and now we have this recent case (which hasn’t come up for trial yet) of the AFL lot actually luring two girls to a house and locking them in two rooms while all their mates arrived. They won’t get out of this one because one of the boys they arrested admitted his guilt and asked to see his mother to try to explain “why he acted like an animal and took part in it.
Don’t tell me these lads weren’t influenced by the lack of justice in the Brimble and Andrew John’s case.
Posted by sharkfin, Monday, 16 November 2009 12:00:23 AM
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pynchme,

'A woman flashing her vagina would very likely be ejected from a club, except perhaps a strip club or something, or arrested for indecent exposure.'

Nice try, but not really. It's all in fun, liberated and sexually assertive if a woman does it, it's a perverse act of a predator if a man does it. Be honest. Myers is a red herring, it's not exactly a social pick up joint. Never been down Bourbon St have you?

'A male who is insensible is vulnerable too'
Oh pynchme. A man being vulnerable? I thought when it comes to sex, men always have the power in your eyes. The whole drunk consent thing rests on the double standards of

a) The man should be better able to handle his drink and is responsible for his actions while drunk.
b) The man is the predator, and is always up for it with anyone, where the woman is the chaste little innocent who got too tipsy.

Why do you generally accept the existence of these sort of double standards in regards to madonna/whore scenarios, but then reject them when it comes to drunken consent?

sharkfin,

'Then there is the issue of why MISSUS BRIMBLE’S RAPIST KILLERS are still walking the streets free.'

Because they haven't been found guilty. That's slander BTW. FYI, GBH is used recreationally, and Brimble asked for the drug according to some witnesses.

'any fool can see that it was totally out of character for the woman'
As is common when people use drugs. I seem to remember a story of one of the guys throwing her off him in disgust when he awoke with her on top attempting sex. I remember thinking in the media hype at the time why nobody thought of this as attempted rape, where his 'disgust' was thought of as misogynistic.

FYI2: Andrew Johns is the brother of Matthew Johns, who had consensual sex with a woman by her own admission.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 16 November 2009 11:33:15 AM
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H
>"That's slander BTW."<
Libel actually because its in writing, slander is verbal.

BTW He was found not guilty of manslaughter not complicity in the events.
Supplying GHB without a prescription is illegal.

You really don't have any standards do you.
Posted by examinator, Monday, 16 November 2009 4:56:44 PM
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