pynchme:"neither you nor mini-u has answered my questions either have you."

That would be because your questions are non sequiturs, no one is disputing the the men behaved badly, so your questions are irrelevant. On the other hand, my own question goes directly to your motivations and I think your response is very telling. Basically, if one of the blokes had died, you'd say, as I am saying about Brimble (and would say about the hypothetical dead man), "so sad, too bad, that's what you get for being stupid". The difference is, you can't bring yourself to accept that a woman has the same capacity for responsibility as a man, so you try to find excuses for Brimble.

You just don't think much of women at all, do you?

I wonder how you derived that rubbish comment from my post, which said:

"As for your usual red herring technique; if anyone dies using drugs it's an unnecessary thing and a sad waste; if the person dies while surrounded by fellow party goers, it's painful to think that people could be so lost to conscious awareness that they wouldn't even notice someone distressed or dying in their midst. If the fellow's body had been defiled; had pics taken and flashed around and he died because, although people were aware he was unconscious, they saw it as an opportunity for them rather than an occasion to summon aid - I would be outraged as well as sad.

I suppose it's inconceivable to you that a person can care and feel compassion towards the opposite sex; being devoid of such feelings yourself, but it's cause for sadness when anyone in a vulnerable state is subject to callousness and depredation by others.
Posted by Pynchme, Thursday, 26 November 2009 9:14:49 AM"

Antiseptic

You seem to spend alot of your time thinking about Psychme as you do your one-handed typing.

Now benk - you nearly instigated a coffee/keyboard disaster just now!

Was "Psychme" a Freudian slip or a clever parody of Pynchme's handle?

Antiseptic,
MRS. BRIMBLE to you. (not Brimble)

<if one of the men had died and she had lived would you have been as hot under the collar or would you regard it as paying the price for excess.>

If there had been 8 naked homosexual men in the room and they possessed a stupefying date rape drug and the dead man was heterosexual then yes, I would be very outraged.
As I was by two such high profile rapes committed in my area in the past few years, the first a young man employed at a local hotel, just doing his job when he was attacked and forced into a car in the hotel carpark by some men, sexually assaulted and then later dumped with awful injuries. I was horrified by it. There was also a more recent one in a small town where a man was grabbed off the street , sexually assaulted and later let go in similar circumstances. I certainly didn’t blame him for being alone on the street at night.(as I’m sure you would if it had been a woman, what was that you said about being responsible for your own risky behavior?) All I felt was anger at the perpetrators.

<the fact that these men were the type they were stood out>

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The fact is Mrs. Brimble didn’t know anything about their stupid antics you only know now because of all the media reports about their behavior and Wilhelm never ponced up and down the corridor naked showing pictures of poor Mrs. Brimble until after she was dead so how could she know about his behaviour. I’ll bet him and his friends baited their trap very well and were very nice to Mrs. Brimble. How could she know.

Houellebecq<I don’t have a story I merely suggested an alternative version of events that was equally
Plausible>
An alternative version of events eh? Not a story. Same horse different name.

O.K. do you have any witness accounts other than that of the accused to back up your “ alternative version of events.”

<As with the revelations in the Greg Bird case, where his victim recently admitted being the aggressor. I’m sure you now believe that’s just a cover up.>
No, I don’t actually, I believe she did do it. We’ve even had women glassing other women on a few occasions up here in North Queensland lately , there is such concern about it that they announced that a few of the local pubs have changed over to plastic glasses.

<Any woman who has group sex is raped and women only take drugs if tricked by a man in your world>

And which diety died and made you and Antiseptic world authorities on human nature. I can assure you I have absolutely no illusions about human nature. I’m probably a lot more cynical than most people.

Was it you or Antiseptic who said in a previous post that the places he hangs out women regularly prostitute themselves with men because they want drugs. I don’t doubt that for a minute.
I would suggest though that the bigger majority of women in society don’t do this, and if you want to pick up your standards a bit and be where women are more classy then you should change your own frequenting of these sleazy establishments and go somewhere where the women and the people in general are a cut above. Sadly, maybe you and Antiseptic can’t do this because you have no class of your own. Like attracts like they say.