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When not to negotiate : Comments

By John Zeleznikow, published 10/7/2009

Compulsory mediation is superficially attractive but can be substantially wrong.

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Formersnag we appear to have very different views on feminism. Whilst I've got a strong distaste for some intepretations of feminism (and the silence from others when I think they should speak up) I support the idea of equality of opportunity for both genders. I support the struggle against assumptions that women because of their gender are less able to manage their own lives or make adult decisions.

I think it's damaging to attack all of feminism, it's creates conflict where there may not otherwise be conflict.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Friday, 24 July 2009 11:48:58 AM
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Formersnag: << These women are there, they are queer, they want your wives and daughters >>

OMG - Lock up your wives and daughters!

We men are under attack, not only from the insidious feminists, but also from predatory and rapacious lesbians!

Raise the drawbridge, man the barricades, batten down the hatches. It could well be the end of civilisation, nay, life as we know it!
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:04:58 PM
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Thanks for the warning F-snag, next time I go out for a night on the town with my lesbian friends I'll remember to wear a chastity belt and no more inviting them over when I baby-sit my niece and nephew - who knows what nefarious plans these evil, evil lesbian feminazi paedophiles may have brewing.

F-snag there is a reason you don't have much success with your relationships, just give me some time to think (being a girly that's a big ask) but when I figure it out I'll let you know.

;-?
Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 24 July 2009 1:10:51 PM
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robert, c j morgan, fractelle, etc, just because i don't hate all women does not mean that i don't accept the inconvenient truth. Which is that there are thousands of women out there in Australia just like chazP & bobtwat. They have swallowed the radical, extremist, feminazi propaganda hook, line & sinker. They genuinely hate, loath & despise all men, believing wholeheartedly that we are all domestically violent, evil oppressors, rapists, Paedophiles etc. These same sick people have been at the forefront of the feminazi movement producing their cornflake packet statistics and telling deliberate, premeditated lies about all men and what we are supposed to have done.

Christianity has the ten commandments as the basis of its faith. feminism however has not 1 single article of its faith which is even slightly true as we have just been discussing, every single word of it from day 1 has been total lies. The mean streets of suburban OZ never were paved with the bones of dead women and children slaughtered in their millions by gun toting, blood thirsty, crazed, evil, men.

IT WAS ALL A LIE!

fractelle i have met a number of women with younger men, it was always about domination, control & never ended well. i note that you have used "light hearted sarcasm" in response to my postings but remain silent about chazP, bobtwat, etc.

PS last year my over 90 auntie Nellie died, she had a career as a rocket scientist on the Woomera rocket range, but i can assure you she would have given her left tit if she could have been put up on a pedestal and worshipped by a man who could have blessed her with babies in the post war baby boom. She like many other women of that era had a "career" because a generation of men her own age were slaughtered so that you could be a spoiled suburban princess like "Kath & Kim". The above will 1 day be published as part of a collection of short stories about women and girls being abused by other women like Cinderella was.
Posted by Formersnag, Saturday, 25 July 2009 3:56:05 PM
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Too right formersnag. My own mother who died years ago would be turning in her grave if she could see what is going on now. She was from the generation of REAL women who were quite happy to fulfill their biological role of bringing up the kids etc. And my dad adored her and would have done anything for her, doesn't mean to say that they would'nt have had their differences but in those days parents/partners would work hard to keep things together instead of leaving in a huff at the first hint of trouble, like so many women do these days, knowing full well that they will get everything their way.Although i could never condone violence to a woman or man, many women just want everything and i believe bring a lot of their troubles on themselves with their selfish bitchy ways. They seem to want equality in everything,but expect special treatment as far as the children are concerned. The womens rights movement has done a great deal to further the cause of womens rights in general, most of it long overdue, however modern day feminists are not as interested in furthering womens rights, as they are in stripping men/fathers of theirs and we need to fight them at every opportunity.
Posted by eyeinthesky, Saturday, 25 July 2009 4:22:49 PM
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Formersnag, eyeinthesky, agreed that there are thousands out there who think like Chazp and bobtwat but there are millions who are more willing and able to be fairer. Quite a few of those will be feminists.

I've been very disappointed at how often feminists fail to criticise those who write supposedly from the woman's side. I don't assume that's because they agree (just as I don't agree with every post I don't comment on).

I think fighting feminists at every opportunity just results in fights with those you may actually have very little disagreement with. Attacking all of feminism is likely to make it that much harder for feminists to take anything you have to say seriously. People get defensive and stop listening when they are attacked with broad attacks when they may be willing to listen to specific criticisms of a movement they are part of or value.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 26 July 2009 5:18:29 PM
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