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Are we safe? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 29/6/2009

The danger with attempting to over-manage risk is that it becomes the main game and distracts us from the life at hand.

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o2<<the fact that I haven't gotten back to you on the other thread is one of time constraints.>>thats fine with me,as much as i enjoy your pointed questions,i more enjoy resolving them

<<It takes time to read your messy,poorly constructed contributions and sort through the garbage.>>.thats fine..i was raised a science nutter,..till in time i realised science was decieving,..then found the living god,..and took to study of many holy texts..[little caring about the other bit players names in the story..[as much as..knowing what they were conveying to the reader of their testimony[about god]

in essence everything is god...if one was to boil it all down,god is all there is...as some put it god is the dreamer[we but his dream]..i draw strength from knowing the truth of that we did to the least we doing to god

<<You say this is Satan's realm...well that is laughable!..Satan doesn't exist...Aren't you the deceiver here by typing such rubbish?>>..mate think of it as you will..personally im sick of the devil made me do it excuse/blame game...

and as previously said,..regard satan...as the least..[that yet is greater than the baptiser]...its not about him being real..[but that satanist's realm/is this realm..[the only realm where true evil/and true good can interact]

<<I pray to God that he assists you in your abilities in sentence structure and communication skills..I hope he answers at least that prayer...Ha!>..as i said..you dont have enough faith to make this happen..

[but lets say i was a perfect writer,..is it not the facts revealed..that should be witness to the perfect,..rather than skillfull writing...

i comfort myself that many of gods messengers were not perfect..[for but one is perfect good..[god]..light/love/sustaining/logic/life..in all of lifes in-perfections...their root cause is yet perfect
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 2 July 2009 2:59:14 PM
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I guess my point, Sells, was that Gregory of Nyssa was particularly accommodating for his time when the Christian idea of ‘eternal damnation’ was becoming increasingly orthodox. ‘Universalism’ or universal reconciliation, also called universal salvation, as you undoubtedly know, is the doctrine or belief that all can receive salvation, regardless of belief. Gregory defended this doctrine - universal salvation (including ‘Satan’) was clearly taught by him, for he was a profound thinker of the school of Origen (his spiritual godfather). Ironically, the Fifth Ecumenical Council in 553 condemned Origen's universalism - according to the wishes of Emperor Flavius Justinian, and this ‘impossible’ doctrine of universalism has been heterodox in most of Western Christianity since then.

To take us a little off track Oliver, and to be ‘living in the present’, I found this Graffiti, St John's University New York, to be amusing:
"And Jesus said to them, "Who do you say that I am?" They replied' You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the kerygma of which we find the ultimate meaning in our interpersonal relationships.' And Jesus said, 'What?"
Posted by relda, Thursday, 2 July 2009 7:35:43 PM
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No one is safe. At least not from runner. *shudder at the anachronistic logic... if you can even call it that*
Posted by ninaf, Thursday, 2 July 2009 9:14:14 PM
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OUG,

The Bible a seriously flawed document.

You are right Eve was created after Adam was warned, and as a result of wrongful Bible teaching women have been seriously wronged! Their entire gender has been oppressed.

Adam allowed Eve to take the blame. The myth of Adam presents man as a weakling!

Why should the man (Adam) be given the right to forgive the woman (Eve) when Adam was the one who truly is at fault.

Many of Moses' laws are oppressive laws, created by an evil man (Moses), and justified by saying that God gave them to him.

Refer "Laws on Sexual Purity" Deuteronomy 22 13-30.

Modern man through the Churches teachings have continued with this oppression based on Paul (a single man's view) 1 Timothy2:11-15

Why doesn't God allow women to be equal...they allegedly are his creation too?

God knew Man would fail the test in Eden...Is it wrong to set man up to fail?!

Why only the men can forgive their women and daughters...more misogynistic rubbish!

<<the book of mosus must be presumed to be writen by mosus..>>

Wrong! Moses didn't write these books he wouldn't write in the third person - He would have said "God told ME to say" NOT "God told Moses to say".

If God loves Satan also then why doesn't he correct his evil creation?

God doesn't help the innocent...He didn't intervene in the holocaust, he didn't intervene in Rwanda he doesn't cure people with amputations.

Why would a loving God create hell when he could simply have stopped all sin? Why doesn't God just kill the devil? Why doesn't he intervene with all the prayers of intervention going on?

This Earth is not hellish for lots of people but it is very tough for many. Why have the western countries prospered whilst the third world still suffers?

God fails to keep the promises made through his messenger (as you call him) Jesus.

God has let down all the people from time in memorium...It is documented in his Bible and taught as though it is nothing!
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 3 July 2009 6:35:41 PM
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Opinionated 2

You write
'Re-read your bile! Shouldn't you stop pretending to represent God?'
Thanks for the advice. I will continue to do it daily.

You write

'If you believe that the Bible is correct and that God murdered innocent men, women and children, and allows slavery aren't you a blasphemer? Isn't that sacrilegious?

On one hand you call God loving & merciful and yet you acknowledge that GOD has done the most horrid deeds to mankind! If you believe GOD has the right to murder innocents you are simply WRONG!'

You define God's judgement as 'horrid deeds to mankind' not me. I just happen to believe God is God and am thankful that His mercy triumphs over HIs judgement. God is fully within His rights to be God which encompassed judgement to the sinner (of which you and I are). I doubt whether you will be in a position to wave your puny fist on judgement day. I just hope you show a little humility before that and come to salvation.

You accuse me of the serious crime of misrepresenting the bible but are yet to quote a Scripture in proper context.

You ask me if I am an angry person. At times yes but generally no. My life has been to blessed and I have no reason to be angry.

Your answers point quite clearly to the fact that you have very little knowledge of the God of Israel or His Son. Hopefully you will get a revelation of the horrible death went through to save corrupt and immoral people like you and me.

My reputation as a Christian means little to me. What my Saviour thinks is far more important than you or anyone else followed by what those I live with think.. It is Him I am answerable to. To some I am a saint to others a mongrel. I would be neglecting my duty not to correct the rubbish you espouse in relation to God and the bible.
Posted by runner, Friday, 3 July 2009 7:41:12 PM
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Having worked in a factory environment, being safe is more than just an attitude change, it is a respect for both your own life and those of others. It is the realisation that your actions could not only affect your own safety, but those of others that has enabled the average life expectancy to increase.

While there are some ridiculous side effects, I believe the world is a better place.

Is Sells equating Christianity with recklessness?

It is exactly that arrogance, and the refusal to accept that the consequences of some of their actions inflict huge misery on mulitudes (i.e. condoms and abortions) that earns fundementalist christians the contempt of more liberally minded persons.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 3 July 2009 10:23:14 PM
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