"Codswallop" - Sells

You learned ones of the Christian variety just don't get it, do you?

I'm yet to see a Church that faithfully teaches the Gospels. Do you know your Bible?

Let Jesus's alleged words correct you.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I.

Why don't churches teach this?

When Jesus was baptized God allegedly said Luke 3:22 "Thou art MY BELOVED SON; in thee I am well pleased"

Did God call himself his son?

You say "Christians have recognised that Christ is God, the Lord, the one with whom we have to deal." the Bible says you are wrong!

But Jesus says much more

Moses (the mass murderer NUMBERS 31:13-19) will accuse us - as Jesus allegedly says John 5:45-47....Moses...is the very one that will accuse you..."

Are we safe...to submit our spirituality to churches who misrepresent the truth by selectively quoting the gospels?

And what of the churches?

Jesus allegedly said "No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." Luke 16:13

and yet if this article is true the churches have put themselves above the gospels

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/16261.htm

So are we safe?

You say "Faith is not the soft option, it is the hard but necessary option."

But faith in what?...the Bible, the teachings of Jesus as portrayed in the Bible and wrongly taught by the churches?

Faith in a single entity God/Jesus clearly not expressed in the Gospels?

Before you lecture us on Religious matters shouldn't you actually know your Bible?

Remember Jesus allegedly said these things that I have quoted and they are stated clearly in your Bible. Back to the books old fella!

So is Jesus' word good enough for you to believe, OR, Did Jesus get it wrong in John 14:28 and you know better?

Opinionated2.

"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul, producing holy witness,
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!"

(Shakespeare: Antonio to Bassanio in The Merchant of Venice, Act I Scene 3)

"The rest is silence."
(Shakespeare, "Hamlet", Act 5 Scene 2)

Rev 14:7 "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."

Warm and safe in fear of god.

Peter Sellick resonates to some extent with the modern obsession with safety and if I am honest I can see it in myself at times with my own children. I am not sure if parents were as vigilant in the past, I don't think so, at least not in the same way. Perhaps it is because we talk more about issues once hidden such as child sexual abuse and the public airing of numerous cases makes us more wary.

Much of the government's obsession with safety and the idea that now our government's are in the business of protecting us from obesity, smoking, drinking, road safety etc comes probably from competing pressures from various lobby groups and to some extent justification for the existence of parts of the public service.

At the local level the obsession has arisen from fear of being sued. Should a pedestrian trip over an tree root protruding into the road and sue the local Council for lack duty of care and medical expenses - following in the footsteps of the American obsession with litigation.

As for God, it is not new that those who preach the Gospels have always used the fear of God to maintain their numbers and bring newcomers to the fold. The concept of hell is a tool for fear - how many Christians have been taught over the years that if they sin without repent they will go to hell. Materialism has nothing to do with it and maturity and common sense will equally tear down those false notions of safety in material goods.

Perhaps those looking for safety in materialism need go no further than some of the more modern churches who embrace materialism such as Hillsong and some of the more evangelical US churches.

No Peter we are definitely not safe and cannot be. I agree with a great deal of your comments though, even though I am an atheist. I particularly like your reference to Jesus being put to death because he was a stirrer I have always believed he was more akin to being a communist or at least very left.

I believe your thoughts are sincere, the problem is, religion has lost the race, quite simply because religion has relied on fear throughout history and now so do politicians. Scare the people into whatever you want them to believe. The Americans have it down to a fine art. The media love nothing more than to scare people witless.

I fervently hope people continue to think for themselves and see through all the hype and spin; both politically and religiously.

I believe are sincere and a good man though.

real and present danger...media complicity/govt treasons revealed..for many war/murder is just a job...few are called to account..but here is one..[quoted extracts from]
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2773

world/health organasation/un/us...funded and participated..in the final phase..of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program..involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis..in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.

Burgermeister’s charges include evidence that Baxter AG,..Austrian subsidiary of Baxter International,..deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus,..supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009 to 16 laboratories in four counties.

She claims this evidence offers clear proof that the pharmaceutical companies and international government agencies themselves are actively engaged in producing,..developing,..manufacturing and distributing biological agents..classified as the most deadly bioweapons on earth in order to trigger a pandemic and cause mass death.

In her April charges,..she noted that Baxter’s lab in Austria,..one of the supposedly most secure biosecurity labs in the world,..

did not adhere to the most basic and essential steps to keep 72 kilos of a pathogen..classified as a bioweapon..meant to be kept..secure and separate..from all other substances..under stringent biosecurity level regulations,..but..it allowed it..to be mixed with the ordinary human flu virus..and sent from its facilities in Orth in the Donau.

In February, when a staff member at BioTest in the Czech Republic tested the material meant for candidate vaccines on ferrets,..the ferrets died.

This incident was not followed up by any investigation from the WHO..EU,..or Austrian health authorities. There was no investigation of the content of the virus material, and there is no data on the genetic sequence of the virus released.

In answer to parliamentary questions on May 20th,..the Austrian Health Minister,Alois Stoger,revealed that the incident had been handled not as a biosecurity lapse,as it should have been,...but as an offence against the veterinary code...

A veterinary doctor was sent to the lab for a brief inspection.

Burgermeister’s dossier..reveals that the release of the virus was to be an essential step for triggering a pandemic..that would allow the WHO to declare a Level 6 Pandemic.She lists the...

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http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2773