A-Septic:

“The anus is not actually a sex organ, while the vagina most assuredly is. There is a quantum difference between anal rape and vaginal intercourse.”

Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 17 May 2009 5:58:48 AM

Apart from the fact that A-septic doesn't understand the meaning of the word quantum: rape is rape. A vagina can be torn just as much as an anus.

But apparently it has to be violent before a shred of sympathy is offered by A-septic:

“You see, pynchme, no one here has ever said that a violent rape is anything other than a terrible thing,”

Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 17 May 2009 5:58:48 AM

I guess we need a return to the old days where, if obvious violence isn't involved, then it can't really be rape.

A-septic, you have not answered my question regarding Roscop, obviously you approve of his treatment of Nina.

Now JamesH

“Fract, I did wonder where Roscop was going with his posts and I did find them a little over the top, but in the end he did managed to explain himself a little bit I think.”

Demanding detailed explanation and photographs, a little over the top? By attempting to discredit Nina?

Well I and many others see him as harassing Nina, over an incident that has already been processed by police. If you can't see an obsessive interest as indicated by his last two posts, then I have to lump you in with A-septic as being utterly clueless about the impact of assault and rape on a victim. I am 167 cms, 60 Kg – very average size for a woman , yet even a man my own size is stronger than I am, let alone the average sized male. Sometimes we are too frightened to do anything other than comply and hope like mad we aren't hurt too badly.

Both A-septic and Roscop take too much interest in the gory details to be genuinely concerned about the welfare of a victim – there is some very sick titillation going on here. Are you that myopic you can't see it?

Fractelle, a quantum difference means that the two things are completely separate. No, don't mention it, I'm getting used to correcting your torrid imaginings.

You could answer a little question for me though: why are you girls so fixated on anal sex?

Fractelle:"A-septic, you have not answered my question"

LOL

Fractelle:"there is some very sick titillation going on here"

LOL you grrls have all been off to the cosmetic surgeon for lip-pursing surgery, haven't you? To save on all that muscular effort.

Hey Fractelle and Ginx - excellent posts again. Great work and yes, I have read Septic's posts and attitude just the same way. I think his cherished notion is that since a vagina and penis are designed to fit together, that anyone with a willy should be able to put it anywhere they like and walking vaginas have no cause for complaint because, gee, isn't a walking vagina designed for it?

Btw could anyone from the Roscop fan club explain how they view Roscop posting maps and pics of the park where the assault took place.
In his illuminating explanation (wtf?) did he shed any light on that?
If so I must have missed it.

Antiseptic's determinedly limited knowledge of rape and seemingly of sex, for that matter, can't allow him to accept that rape includes p-v penetration but also encompasses a wide range of humiliating practices. Many rapsists can't even get an erection.

I still want an answer from him and the other like minded men here about male rape. The question was - how should a young male dress to avoid attracting a rapist - or, if we broaden the question - what should a young man (or an ederly man for that matter, since several of them are raped each year)- do to avoid being raped ?

(I wonder if they will keep wimping out on discussing male on male rape).

Pynchme

The level of obfuscation from the pro-Roscop crowd is astounding. A-septic introduced the topic of anal rape and now he is trying to distance himself from his ignorant comments. A-septic - you only managed a quantum side-step - Physics 101 is recommended.

I too would like to know how men can prevent themselves from being raped, should they avoid drinking at clubs? Walking alone to their car at night? Perhaps they should walk in groups - safety in numbers. Of course any male who has the temerity to dress well and wear aftershave is clearly asking for trouble.

But my final question is this, how many false claims of assault or rape are made by men?

Any male claiming to be raped must be questioned over and over again, made to repeat the experience until they have no hope of forgetting what has happened to them. Even if a rape is proved, they then will have to prove the circumstances again and again, if they brought up the subject to illuminate the issue of male violence. That's only fair isn't it?

Roscop, boy did you managed to push one of GINX's buttons, by the looks of it, it was a rather big button.

Now the others smell blood and have joined in.

If I was you Roscop, I'd apply for the CIA witness protection program, it just might keep you safe from this mafia for a while.

I think Nana did very well in dealing with you.

I have seen this played out a number of times before, where a girl or one of her freinds takes offense at what a guy said or did, they then try and get other guys involved to teach this guy a lesson, which usually means he gets the living daylights bashed out of him.

The girls using their combined mite have managed to change the direction of this blog.

Throwing a few smelly red herrings.

Pynchme:"I wonder if they will keep wimping out on discussing male on male rape"

Male-male rape is bad. There, done and dusted. Off you go now and ask someone what you should think about that response.

Fractelle:"A-septic introduced the topic of anal rape"

Erm, not in the real world, dear, although you'd not know that, having failed to read the thread. It was your little friend pynchme who seems determined that anal rape is equivalent to vaginal intercourse. She's got "issues", the poor thing.

Fractelle:"you only managed a quantum side-step"

Actually, dear, it was a quantum leap that went way over your head.

Fractelle:"how many false claims of assault or rape are made by men?"

No idea, how many do you reckon?

Perhaps Nina could assist here with some information from the NSW RCC, which she tells us services both a male and female clientele?

On the whole, according to the ABS, the sexual assault of males is about half as common as that of women, at approximately 0.6% of the male population experiencing some form of sexual assault under the broad definitions used by the ABS.

It is the broadening of definitions that the New Wowsers such as yourself promote that is the bigger problem. As it stands, under the definitions used, if my wife/girlfriend wants sex and I don't feel like it and she then decides to take matters "in hand" as it were, I have just been assaulted. If she says anything to imply that my lack of cooperation might lead to a similar withholding on her part at some future point, that's coercion. If she gets cranky and turns her back, coercion.

Yes, these are all trivial, but their occurrence is lumped in with the genuine rapes, which simply causes rational people to distrust the figures.

An analogy is the traffic laws: we treat someone who is careless in the carpark much less seriously than someone who goes out hooning or drunk-driving and kills someone. We devote lots of resources to the one and almost none to the other. It would be ludicrous to do otherwise.