Thanks Leigh, looks like you and ‘Rouge are still influenced by the same old dirty defamous attitude about our blacks we used at country school.

I don't know whether you both know it or not, but it is breaking the law.

Looks like the fun you reckon I need mixing with you, is the same as the rotten slang openly used by us in sport, even with so-called boongs in the teams.


But surely you pair have grown up since such words were openly used.

Further it is my belief that Online Opinion would be much better of without you both if you keep on the way you do.

In fact getting back to my Mickey Mouse degree, most universities do now support the belief that sometime in the future, our Aborigines will be allowed permanent positions in our Federal Parliament similar to New Zealand.

Further, seeing that it had been discussed and carried out fairly recently in Canada, we are hoping Barak Obama will be suggestung somethng about it.

Finally, although I could probably sue you over the way you have degraded all my years of study, but realising you haven’t received an adequate education needed for these days, I’ll forgive you.

Fact is, my own grandkids carry on nearly as bad.
Cheers, BB, Buntine, WA

I have a mate who refuses to give up his outside dunny; he agrees with Leigh that 'one does not sh!t where one lives'. The rest of my mates (and I) have inside toilets. A couple even have ensuites. How uncivilised is that?
Pigs on the other hand -at least free range ones, with ample space- are very fastidious. At least, they never defecate where they sleep...
As to the questionable civilisation (or civility) of -grey- nomads, I concur. Some're also a bloody nuisance on the highway.
Before the coming of whitefellas, the continent of Australia was home to over 500 separate nations of blackfellas; each with their own language, customs and traditions. These nations did produce and trade (witness treasured sea shells, as far west as Broken Hill). Of course, they also indulged in the highly civilised past time of warfare, much like the Europeans; although (not being 'civilised') they clearly weren't as good at it.
As to 'the finer things in life', I believe many anthropologists consider the blackfellas around Port Jackson in convict times had a higher standard of living than even the free whites. Less than 3-4 hours a day was spent building their rudimentary shelters and gathering food.
The bulk of their day was spent teaching and playing with their children, and socialising.
Sounds pretty fine, to me.
Why were the aboriginals not as technologically advanced as the Europeans? I suspect for much the same reason that the ancient Greeks did not develop steam engines, despite being familiar with the principles.
They had slaves.
If it ain't broke, why play around with it?
I particularly liked the second definition of “civilised”, supplied by wordweb online.
“Marked by refinement in taste and manners”.
What a pleasure, this discourse with so many civilised individuals.

Dear Leigh,

I'm afraid I disagree with your contention that all
opinions have the same value. Of course we're all entitled to an opinion, that goes without saying, but experts in the field
of a particular subject would be far more knowledgeable than
people who are not experts in that field. That was my reason
for quoting an expert on the subject in my previous post.

I'm somewhat disappointed in your strong stand against
our first Australians who you feel are "uncivilized."
Don't you watch TV? There's been plenty of programs showing
the white "feral" lifestyles.

I'm also Disappointed that you tend to label
people "leftist" (whatever that means?) people you don't really know, and seem to have a general disrespect for academic achievement. (No easy task to finish any tertiary institution, no matter what your age).

Did you not go to Uni? Is that it? Never mind - it's never too late, they do have a "mature-age" quota. Think of your sense of
achievement - once you actually complete a course. Perhaps then
you will no longer feel the resentment that you do at present.

I think that if we contemporary Australians are to live at ease
with ourselves, we need more education, more tolerance, and
greater understanding about our differencies.

BANJO PATERSON FOREVER

Our hosts at On Line Opinion have informed me it is not possible to mutate from Banjo Paterson to Saltbush Bill, as hoped.

Therefore, I remain, Banjo Paterson, forever.

Not to be confused with Banjo, ojnab or any other size, shape or form of the same person.

Yours sincerely,

BANJO OJNAB PATERSON

Banjo Paterson,
Thats a pity as it may get confusing at times, but i guess we can live with it. Saltbush Bill is a great alternative as he was one of Patersons great characters.

I would have sworn that others have changed their pen names.

Banjo's forever

Leigh although I have disagreed with you in the past, I do admire your persistence in what you feel is right, we all have that right, one of the Aims of the Secular Party which I am a member of is "To promote freedom of thought and expression" unfortunately it never quite works that way, we all seem to think we are right,

I am an Atheist and recently on a post even Atheists were not in harmony with each other, which really surprised me.

To all posts please let us not get hurt, if we all met face to face over lunch I am sure we would laugh our way through our differences instead of written posts which can be so abrasive at times.

Although the above is not on Changing Australia Day perhaps we should try to Change Ourselves instead